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Radio show date 01-14-2022

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John C. Morley:   (00:00)

Hello, everyone. It's that time for the JMOR tech talk show, where we answer questions about technology, explain the way they should work and why they don't sometimes and now here's your host, John C. Morley. Hey, every buddy and welcome once again to another fine episode of the JMOR Tech Talk Show. Great to have you, Marcus, again a happy new year for all those that didn't catch our first episode on the 1st this is our first episode, actually a second episode because we had one last week. I remember our dates here. Today is the 14th I can't believe we're on the second week, Marcus. We had an episode just last week and that was our first of the year and this is our second episode of the year and I have to tell you we're hopping. 


John C. Morley:   (00:54)

There's so much happening here with Transform U Radio Network. You can go to that page anytime you want, it's really easy to get to it just and you can watch all the other great podcasts and shows including my other show that's been added there, which if you guys are looking for inspiration in your life. I'm sure you are but if you're looking for inspiration in your life, you can go to where it says radio and you go to where it says shows, scroll down to the bottom and you'll see my new show, "The Inspirations for Life," which has releases daily that talk about things with how to deal with workplace bullies. We're going to be talking about the brain soon and so many great things. And also John's super motivational Friday, which is also on that show. So there's just so much content Marcus. I don't know what these people are going to do with it but there's a lot. 


Marcus Heart:   (01:55)

It's loaded like wow, doing some great things, John you are.


John C. Morley:   (01:59)

So if you want to change your life you can listen to my stuff and there are lots of other great programs on "The Transform U Radio Network" and check that out. I think you're going to become a fan and I want to say thank you to the Diaspora Psychedelic Society. So Diaspora is a Jamaica-based member organization committed to total wellness through the lens of nature-based antigens and sacred medicines. Now DPS offers unique wellness experiences and training to support inner healing and balance a healthy living lifestyle. If you'd like to learn more about them, you can go to the website. It's, to check them out, which we ask you to do after our program of course. So we've been following a lot. What's been going on in the news Marcus and the FBI has now sued over the Boogaloo-linked killing of the federal police officer. 


Marcus Heart:   (03:25)

Yeah, Facebook links your name. He's getting linked to stuff. 


John C. Morley:   (03:33)

Wrong for death lawsuit accuses Facebook of connecting the officer's alleged killer and his alleged accomplice of 2020, along with promoting extremism. Now I have to tell you that this resonates with me on a cord because I was on a plane a few weeks ago, coming back from beautiful Southwest Florida visiting my folks and I was looking to pop movie. They have lots of free movies on the plane and so I wanted something that was going to stimulate my brain a little bit. The flight was a really good and amazing ride. I said, "Let me sit back, relax and enjoy." So I did and there was a program on, I'm not going to mention the name but it was not an easy program to watch. It was actually, I think I do remember it was called bad tutor and I get to tell you what this guy did. 


John C. Morley:   (04:30)

He was stalking because he was a tutor who usually would go after young ladies and try to get the tutors that were going to go there and he would drug them. He worked for a lab and he would steal all these concoctions that were deadly things like date rape drugs etc. He would steal them from the lab very cautiously and whenever somebody got in the way he feared there. The lady, who was supposed to go there and help was a really good teacher for many years. He went to her house, figured out where she was. He went there and put something in her drink while she was in the shower. She went over to the place to meet the girl. 


John C. Morley:   (05:30)

And the lady who was also a doctor there for her daughter. She says, "I think maybe you should take it easy. Don't drive. I think maybe I'm going to just walk it's a lovely day" and then what got interesting is that not only did he do that he looked up where this lady lived, this bad tutor guy and he found out she was a doctor, this is creepy Marcus. Do you know what he did? He got an appointment with her. He said he just broke his tooth and I was like cringing what I heard, what he did. He took a bottle cap and he chipped his tooth to come in to see her. She fixed it and magically they had a conversation and now he is tutoring her daughter. 


John C. Morley:   (06:20)

So I bring this up to you because there are a lot of bad elements out there and this just goes to show another example of how people can get so entwined. And in this case, the sister of a slain federal security officer sued Facebook which has renamed itself Meta, which we all know they're not hiding from anyone, accusing the social network of bearing responsibility for her brother's killing because the platform connected users of extremist groups and promoted inflammatory content. That is serious, Marcus. 


Marcus Heart:   (06:56)

It is serious.


John C. Morley:   (06:59)

We talked about the fact when you give a gift on the holidays, we've talked about this but this goes way beyond that. I read sometimes about what stalking was but I don't think I had a clue, Marcus, about what stalking was. I knew it was following so many things like that but I didn't like what it was like when you watch a movie like that, that's so surreal. 


Marcus Heart:   (07:24)



John C. Morley:   (07:26)

And this just proves why you can't just trust anybody in our world, unfortunately. 


Marcus Heart:   (07:32)

You can't. We have so many easy connections to everyone. We are open book, especially when we put our information on social media. 


John C. Morley:   (07:43)

That's why I tell people I get social media but what you put on social media should not be something you would never share with a stranger in person. Do I put my address on social media personally? Do I put anything personal on there? I don't want to. Do I put my home phone number and my cell phone? Not, do I name people's names? Not, I always say to protect the innocent and the guilty, I'm going to use an alias and something as simple as using somebody's first name could come back to haunt you because if I say something and now that leaks somewhere and somebody gets hurt, even though I didn't do it, I provide a conduit for someone. So I think social media is everyone's responsibility, Marcus. I know a lot of people would laugh at me but you'll laugh at me, unfortunately, until it happens. 


John C. Morley:   (08:43)

And I hope it never happens to you. So take my and Marcus' advice that social media and the internet are serious business. Now have fun on it but be careful what you share and I use this old analogy, which I've used for many years. You wouldn't give your credit card out to a stranger. Would you be in person? Then why are you doing it over the internet? And I know we hammer these points in a lot of shows but I can't handle them enough Marcus. I wanted to get through people's heads that this one mistake they make could be a serious problem and a very expensive one to get out of their life. This particular show, even though it was a show, was supposed to be based on a true story. He went to take this girl up to a mountain and when he went to propose to her and she said, "No," he was about to knock her off the cliff.


Marcus Heart:   (09:49)

Just sad and this stuff happens in real life all the time, just inflamed, passionate crime. 


John C. Morley:   (09:59)

I always say to people never lie about what's going on in their life. Like if you go to the police or something like that and I said this in my videos if somebody's bothering you and you're feeling threatened, go to the police but if somebody is just bothering you or there's a minor issue don't tell the police that they're stalking you when they might have just annoyed you one time. That's a big difference. Somebody is annoying you like once or bumping into them that is stalking. So stalking still lets people know what that is. That's intently following somebody either on social media, in-person, and pretty much tracking their whereabouts as this guy did. So he could just magically pop up. He even because her date who she was with for many years and somebody in a band who was going to help her grow, he saw he was a problem. 


John C. Morley:   (11:04)

So you know what he did? He went to that restaurant. He brought a date rape drug and then they called 911 and then he happened to come and says, "I saw her date put a drug in her drink and he was the one that did it." Now when the kid comes back, he was arrested and he didn't do anything and it took a long time but the bad thing about it, was as he was afraid of what was going to happen? So what he did because the kid was about to do something and I tell you this, if you have, somebody that does not agree don't share that you're going to go after them. Don't even approach them, go to the police and get everything documented. Even if you don't file a report, if they're threatening, you go to the police, get a restraining order. 


John C. Morley:   (11:56)

I'm not saying to do this if that is just a minor disturbance or if it's a simple boyfriend, girlfriend, or spouse issue and you don't like them. That's not a reason to file a restraining order. A restraining order is when somebody is causing your life to become miserable and you feel threatened at every turn that he or she might be there and they may do something to you. So you know what he did? He says, "I'm going to get you," which he never should have said and he thought that as a threat, he went after him and he took a drug, killed him, and then he made it look like he killed himself in the car through carbon monoxide. People like that are sick Marcus. 


Marcus Heart:   (12:36)

Yes. Just call us individuals. 


John C. Morley:   (12:40)

Absolutely terrible and then the best part is we thought that he died, the guy who was doing all this bad stuff, the bad tutor, he jumped off and everybody thought he died but then a few weeks later he turned up in Seattle, Washington and looked for another girl that was very similar to her and said, "Oh yeah, I'm new. I'm looking forward to chemistry class and I love to help you." He was going to start this pattern all over again. So the reason I tell you it's important to tell somebody, not just for your protection. Even if you get away, which I hope you do, that person might be out there and hurting someone else. I'm not talking about somebody who's stealing. I'm talking about somebody who majorly could be affecting somebody's life. You don't realize what that is. 


John C. Morley:   (13:32)

And when I watch that movie, I said, "I now understand what stalking is." I had the concept in my head but when I watched that movie it was just so ingrained in them. Like how could somebody do that? They would take away their freedom, take away their life and that's what this one kid did. I remember reading just a few weeks ago, one person killed somebody. They said that he stole something. I said, "What'd he steal?" He stole his ability to have a girlfriend, stole his ability to get married, get a college degree, get a driver's license, he stole all that from. This happened just a few months ago. So this is not just stuff on TV but I think it's on TV so maybe people will wake up. 


Marcus Heart:   (14:17)



John C. Morley:   (14:20)

So that's why it's really important that you have to be careful who and when you share information with but the last thing I want to say about that is if you know something and you're uncomfortable and you don't feel threatened, just go to the police department and file a report. Nobody has to know, keep it anonymous, and then if things get progressively worse, you could turn that report into something that can actually go and arrest that person but now you'll have documentation. I know nobody wants to do it but just filing a report can protect you, even if you never use it. So that's my advice for today as far as this goes. So I hope you guys will hear that advice. 


Marcus Heart:   (15:01)

That's good advice, John. 


John C. Morley:   (15:03)

I try to give some useless or useful information but I hope one thing, Marcus. I hope that the info I'm giving may get into somebody's ear either a parent or a child or a teen and just shake that person and wake them the heck up right before they do something because they're in this stage and the last thing I want to say about that is when you're in a relation don't think just because you're in a relationship that you're protected. You're not. That's when it's most vulnerable because you think you trust the person they're going to exploit you. So be careful out there. How many of you guys know about the E three gaming convention? They've announced that they're going to be online only again, following COVID 19 surges. One of the world's biggest gaming shows will now be virtual in 2022. 


Marcus Heart:   (16:03)



John C. Morley:   (16:07)

This is just unbelievable and I want to make a quote from their team, "Due to the ongoing health risk surrounding COVID 19 and its potential impact on the safety of exhibitors and attendees, E three will not be held in person in 2022." The ESA commented in a statement to venture, "We are nonetheless excited about the future of E three and look forward to enhancing more details soon." So E three will miss a third straight year in person and E three is not an event that you want to attend virtually. It's just not the same experience. 


Marcus Heart:   (16:49)

I'm concerned about some of these events that drove a lot of people together. I'm concerned in wondering if it's going to start deteriorating some of these events down the road and not make people so excited about them anymore. 


John C. Morley:   (17:06)

I'm doing an event at the end of this month and being president in my chamber and I can say getting people to attend, it's not easy and they keep telling me, "Oh John, we're going to wait." I said, wait for what? "Well, we're going to wait." I said, "COVID is not going away." They say, "No but we're waiting for the surges." I'm like, "How long are we just going to keep waiting? You get to just make some of your own proactive." So I think this is a problem and I think it's more than a medical issue. I think it's a mental issue with people and a mindset. Not that COVID is not here and not that it's not important but I think we need to be resilient and we need to be protective but we need to not stop living life. I'm the first one to tell you that it's something very serious. Even the Omicron is serious. There are lots of doctors who say, "Oh, it's nothing." I know people that almost died from the Omicron. Now of course there are also different factors but I believe we need to take it seriously. I also believe we need to not be ready to kill somebody. I think there has to be a middle ground. That's what I think. 


Marcus Heart:   (18:24)



John C. Morley:   (18:27)

Speaking about a friend's Facebook they're back up again. The news on Facebook was flooded with over 650,000 posts attacking the election before the January 6th riot. 


Marcus Heart:   (18:45)

Just how many more alleged claims do they need against them? Before our government just take more action against business companies. 


John C. Morley:   (18:58)

The post went up at a clip of more than 10,000 a day, on election day on November 3rd and the day of the capital riot. I just don't know when enough is going to be enough.


Marcus Heart:   (19:23)

It seems like we are finding out more and more why they want to change their name so badly.


John C. Morley:   (19:29)

In all due respect, I think that their corporate practices are a bit questionable. 


Marcus Heart:   (19:42)



John C. Morley:   (19:45)

And we all know the advertising on these platforms. It's changed, Marcus. It's not as effective as it used to be. 


John C. Morley:   (19:55)

So I think this is why Facebook wants to do it. We've been hearing about this for years. They want to build that Metaverse and I don't think they're going to be the first ones to do it. Metaverse we've talked about this before that whole kind of virtual world where you rent buildings and everything online. You rent resources and you do it all from your house. They want to make that's what Metaverse is. It's a virtual world that you pay to be in. Think of it as the virtual reality of gaming but now we add the virtual reality of a real world into a business environment. They're already adding the ability that people can go to doctors virtually and make that part of a Meta world. I just see this as being scary, personal information that could transpire. It could be a real mess.


Marcus Heart:   (20:50)

Especially if it's coming from the brainchild of Mark Zuckerberg, I just can't trust this guy. 


John C. Morley:   (20:56)

I can't trust the whole company further than I can throw them. It's not nice to say but all these companies, even the one that starts with an A I don't trust any of them. The one company announced just the other day that they're only going to be giving sick pay for COVID for one week. I mean, who the heck does that? 


Marcus Heart:   (21:19)



John C. Morley:   (21:22)

I was on the phone with a company, a major company, I'm not going to mention the name and I was trying to get a return. I was on the phone with the lady, no doubt here over 50 minutes and about 40 of those minutes, I must have been repeating the serial number to her and she says, "I'm not getting it." I said, "Well, maybe you need another headset." She says, "No, no, it's not the headset it’s the line." I said, "Maybe you need to get back to work in the office or your company needs to get a phone system that works. I know I'm not the first person complaining about being on the phone." So I set a timer with her. I said, "You have three minutes. I have to get on an important call."


John C. Morley:   (22:06)

I said, "I'll give you advisements on 32nd increments but at the three mark, I'm just going to say goodbye and hang up." So the three minutes started, then I went down to 2 minutes and 30 seconds. She said, "What's that?" I said, "I told you, I'm not fooling around 2 minutes. You have 1 minute and 30 seconds and less now to get me the information or I'm just hanging upon you." One minute. 30 seconds. 15 seconds. She's like, "I have your information now." I said, "Well, you have 10 seconds. Okay, goodbye." I can't believe the big fortune companies are doing this. 


Marcus Heart:   (22:51)

John, you talked about this last year and here we are in 2022 and it's still going on. 


John C. Morley:   (22:59)

It's getting worse, Marcus. It is getting worse. I've got supply chain issues where I've ordered things six months ago. I'm just getting them now. Sending us invoices months ago and asking for pay and I'm like, "How and Why can I pay you for something when the whole order wasn't shipped? How do I install it? How do I get paid when you only ship me one piece at a 10?" They said, "Oh, that's a problem." I said, "Well, tell your credit department we can't pay that supposed to ship in full." "Oh,  yeah. That was a mistake." I said, "Well mistake or no mistake I'm not paying you." And they don't understand these ramifications. I told one vendor the other day, I said, "We're not buying any more hardware product from you until you guys get your act together." You know what their team does. They don't call me back. They're frustrated too. It just doesn't make sense Marcus that I see this world and I've said this before 2022 is going to be a hard year for logistics. 


Marcus Heart:   (24:04)



John C. Morley:   (24:05)

It's going to be worse. We see the sticker price of cars going 5,000 and 10,000 unless you buy a car that was from 2020 because there were no cars made in 2021. It's a real serious problem. It's like competition is not getting a chance to even prevail because one vendor can't. Even no vendor can ship and they're all blaming everything on COVID. I mean, isn't this enough, Marcus? How much can we blame COVID for this stuff anymore?


Marcus Heart:   (24:50)

It's getting pretty old now. 


John C. Morley:   (24:53)

You go to a store I'm sure at least three or four times a day. I'm sure you've heard that a few times. "Well, I'm sorry sir, due to COVID we can't get that shipped to you" or "due to COVID, we're going to have to get back to you. We're shipping something for repair." They told me that it was going to be COVID quarantined for three to four days for the decontamination process and then it'll take seven to 10 days. Once they've cleared it from the COVID center. A piece of equipment they want to decontaminate. I don't think it even lives on the surface longer than 24 hours. Three days for a decontamination chamber, seriously? 


Marcus Heart:   (25:39)

That's something more to that they're not admitting.


John C. Morley:   (25:45)

But speaking about competition as we were just saying. Ford's, new ECU Company is pulling out of any city that doesn't limit competition. 


John C. Morley:   (25:59)

So the ECU company it's owned by Ford. They announced a major restructuring not too long ago and they're pulling out of nearly all open permit markets. So spin is beginning to exit a few US markets, Germany and Portugal and it is projected to close down in Spain as soon as February. Again, they're not tolerating any market where there is no limit on competition. The decision to restructure has been a big problem and it appears to mean that people are going to be laid off and they're working on severance packages and a quote from them, "This decision to restructure impacts roughly a quarter of our staff." So for those of you that don't know spin was acquired by Ford in 2018 and then they announced an aggressive expansion plan in 2019. Then they expanded to Europe in 2020 and soon after that the company is now switching its focus for the immediate future but are they setting themselves up for failure Marcus by doing that, I wonder. 


Marcus Heart:   (27:14)

I wonder too John and I am just curious is there something under land really in between this. Could it be that it is not due to the open permit markets that they're complaining about? That they're just not interested in innovating? 


John C. Morley:   (27:41)

There are other networks out there, for example, there are Scoot Networks and they're starting to get a lot of information in the news and you can now rent a scooter for $2 one way anywhere in San Francisco. So I think it's more about that. $2 is a very inexpensive rental. $2 one way anywhere in San Francisco and then of course you've got The Segues these are companies that are renting Segues for a little more money. They're the powered scooters where you have to balance. You put your feet up and you have to have a little more agility to be able to use them to get started. But I don't know, this is going to be interesting what's going to happen. 


Marcus Heart:   (28:38)

Yeah. It seems like they're going to scrap it completely at some point.


John C. Morley:   (28:43)

There are a few other scooter companies that I found. One is called Lime, they're supposed to have the best discounts. Then you have Spin, which we talked about. We have Bird and then we even have Lift that's getting into the mix here and then we have VO. 


John C. Morley:   (29:02)

So I have to tell you that one of two things is going to happen. So probably people say to me, "John, how much is an E-scooter?" Because that's really what it comes down to goes. Remember, you're paying for convenience, right? But in addition to being for convenience, you want something. If you're going to work every day, you probably would spend money on an E-scooter, right? You could get basic scooters for $300. You can even get electric scooters, some of the good E-scooter for like 400 bucks and then they have some that are remote control, you can get some nice E-scooter that go up to 22 miles per hour for right around 600 bucks, and then if you want to break the bank you can get them to go up to 31 miles per hour and you'll spend just under a thousand bucks.


John C. Morley:   (30:03)

I think if somebody uses this to go to work, they're probably going to buy one because it's going to be cheaper than renting one every day and it's going to be yours and now they've scooters with four wheels on them. So if you're afraid of balancing, you can get one with three or you could do the four wheels because they have better breaking. I think it's going to be a wait-and-see attitude where we're going to have to say, do people want to spend money on E-scooters? And the government might be because it's a green-friendly thing. They might put an incentive out there, a bill that might encourage people to not use their cars. Maybe they'll give people a hundred dollars rebate off or they'll give them some other tax incentive but I think they're more to it than what Ford E-scooter Company is saying. I don't know the picture because it's too new but I think as the months unfold in 2022 we're going to see the real truth and learn what's going on and why? E-scooter is jumping out and I think the truth is they're afraid of something but we don't know what it is. 


Marcus Heart:   (31:30)

Yeah. That sounds about right. That's going to be interesting to find out. 


John C. Morley:   (31:35)

Well, follow that we've talked about Google and we talked about Facebook a lot but now we're going to talk about Google. So Google and Facebook which is fined again by France, they're getting into a lot of trouble with these companies in Europe.


Marcus Heart:   (31:54)

Those European countries are not playing games over there. 


John C. Morley:   (31:58)

No, they're not. They're getting in trouble this time. Last time it was because they showed the wrong ad to the wrong person for pushing tracking cookies on users with dark patterns. 


Marcus Heart:   (32:09)



John C. Morley:   (32:11)

So what does this mean? Well, first of all, to accept a cookie, you click one button wherever you are. To deny a cookie in Europe, you have to accept and then deny, that's confusing. 


Marcus Heart:   (32:31)

It is. 


John C. Morley:   (32:33)

So French users according to Facebook, CNIL have to first click on a button labeled, "accept cookies" and they quote that, "Necessarily it generates confusion and the CNIL generates users to believe they have no choice in the matter." So Google's problem is symmetry rather than mislabeling. The CNIL says that the company's website including YouTube allows you to accept all cookies with a single click but to reject them they have to click through several different menus. That seems intentional. 


Marcus Heart:   (33:13)

Yeah, that's very intentional. That's sneaky. 


John C. Morley:   (33:18)

So Google and Facebook are using what they call dark patterns to push cookies on users and you are essentially tricking their users and deploying what are known as dark patterns. It's a style of what they call a subtly cursive user interface design to mangle the consent. So breaking the law and fines and demands that the companies are charging for the cookie UI design, that'll be within three months and fairly a failure to fix. This will result in a hundred thousand dollars per day. Now you're probably saying a hundred thousand dollars. Well, it's more than that. A hundred thousand pounds to dollars, they're going to be charged $135,884.90 as of this month, this day. So little more than a hundred thousand but they're giving them three months to get their act together and if they don't, they're going to just politely find them. But the one good thing that's going to come out of all this is, if you're in France you're going to be able to ignore your cookies with just one button which is what they're requiring. Now, why doesn't the United States require something like this? 


Marcus Heart:   (34:48)

That's very easy because most lawmakers are friends with Google and Facebook. 


John C. Morley:   (34:58)

And Facebook claims that they're being transparent. Meta whoever the heck they are these days. I have to argue, they're not. Facebook actually, and this has been said by many, gives you homework to figure out what your privacy settings are. Most people don't want to go through all that. So not only does Meta require you to learn how to use their new system but also how to use their new privacy system. They claim it's a lot easier and you can have access to all the tools you want but who wants to spend time with a learning curve? And if they have something like this, they don't even have a video that explains how to use it? So I have to say, does this is sounding like deceptive practices? 


Marcus Heart:   (35:48)

Yeah, there's very deceptive.


John C. Morley:   (35:51)

There are no centralized locations for controls. They're just way out in a left-field in one is in another country and what ones in the kitchen and ones in the garage is like, they're all the place.


Marcus Heart:   (36:04)

That's a perfect way to put it that I like it.


John C. Morley:   (36:07)

People say, "Oh, that's just how they design it." Most people don't understand that they are not software developers or engineers. When you develop software you come up with functionality but you start with a user interface, user experience design, you start with that first and then you work on the functionality. You figure out what you're going to do but you have to make sure you have the right design. You can have the concept of how the software's going to work but that graphic design has to be done first for its launches. So maybe you have to figure out what you want to do and kind of put that together. But before that can go anywhere, you've got to have a smart, easy to use intuitive user interface. This is the problem with a lot of programs out there, bank websites, stock trading websites and I could go on. And people say, "Oh, well that's just their site." No, it's the way they chose to be and I have to tell you that I believe it is deliberate. It's absolutely, it's intentional. People are like, "Oh no, it's not intentional." 


Marcus Heart:   (37:21)



John C. Morley:   (37:23)

And something else interesting happened not so long ago Roku's executive Scott Rosenberg, who helped launch the Roku channel. He announced he is stepping down. 


Marcus Heart:   (37:40)

I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, John. 


John C. Morley:   (37:43)

I'm not sure because if he launched the company, he had the vision. If he's stepping down like if he's leaving the company, which sounds like what he's doing, that might mean that he's going to try to make his brainchild.


Marcus Heart:   (38:03)

Yeah. That's usually what happens when these guys step down. They usually go and work on other projects or get picked up by electric car companies.



John C. Morley:  (38:13)

And that's what happened. We saw that happening a lot. And this is a quote that he said, "Working at Roku these last nine years has been the most rewarding time of my career without a close second." He's so full of it. Rosenberg said in a statement, "Sign to leave was difficult but made possible by my belief in the incredible bench strength of the platform team and the company as a whole." That's a crock Marcus, it's a beautifully crafted statement but what it really should say is, "I enjoyed my time working at Roku. Now I'm moving on in my life and going to be launching another company with a similar design. That's probably going to compete and beat Roku."


Marcus Heart:  (38:59)



John C. Morley:   (39:02)

Well, let's see what happens. Mark my words in a few months, I think we'll be having this conversation about Roku in a few months and seeing what Scott's up to and I don't think anything is going to help Roku.


Marcus Heart:  (39:15)

No, not at all. Especially after years of just reflecting on what Roku is?


John C. Morley:   (39:22)

Usually, you know why this happens Marcus? This happens because these people get greedy. They're not happy with making. I don't know maybe he's making a few million dollars. They're not happy with making that or making 5 million or 10 million. So they want to get more money but the board says, "No" and they're justified by saying no. So you don't hear that part of the conversation that was muted and then they just leave but they leave that out of the discussion for legal reasons.


Marcus Heart:  (39:56)

Of course.


John C. Morley:   (39:58)

Google's getting into some more trouble, they keep getting into trouble, don't they?


Marcus Heart:  (40:08)

They do. These large companies, just can't keep their hands out of the cookie jar.


John C. Morley:   (40:16)

And out of someone else's cookie jar. They're in their cookie jar but they just seem to be touching everyone else's cookies jar because I guess they don't have enough cookies in their own. So, the US ITC (The International Trade Commission) ruled and found that Google infringed on Sonos patents, import patents.


Marcus Heart:  (40:38)



John C. Morley:   (40:40)

So the International Trade Commission found that Google infringed on five Sonos patents relating to smart speakers and audio. It could result in a stoppage of the import of Google speakers, phones, and Chrome books that violate these patents. So in August, a preliminary ruling from the ITC judge found that Google infringed on the patents and was warned. They've already started a new concept but Sonos alleges that it's not going to be very useful. It may work but it's not going to be what it was before. Of course, it's not going to be what it was before but what choice do they have? And this is what Google says, "While we disagree with today's decision, we appreciate that the International Trade Commission has approved our modified designs and we do not expect any impact to our ability to import or sell our products. We will seek further review and continue to defend ourselves against Sonos frivolous claims about our and intellectual property," Google spokesperson. I'm sorry that is so pompous. You copied an idea of somebody else.


Marcus Heart:  (41:57)

This is rough.


John C. Morley:   (41:59)

Now I want to read a quote from Sonos because it's only fair to read their quote, "We appreciate that the ITC has definitely validated the five Sonos patents at issue in this case and ruled unequivocally that Google infringes all five that is across the board win. That is surpassingly rare in patent cases and underscores the strength of Sonos' extensive patent portfolio and the hollowness of Google's denials of copying. These Sonos patents cover Sonos' groundbreaking invention of extremely popular home audio features, including the setup for controlling home systems, the synchronization of multiple speakers, the independent volume control of different speakers, and the stereo pairing of speakers. It is a possibility that Google will be able to degrade or eliminate product features in a way that circumstance the importation ban that the ITC has imposed but Google may sacrifice consumer experience in an attempt to circumvent this importation ban. Its products will still infringe many dozens of Sonos patents, its wrongdoing will persist and the damages owed Sonos will continue to accrue. Alternatively, Google can, as other companies have already done pay a fair royalty for the technologies. It has misappropriated."


John C. Morley:   (43:28)

I think that would be the appropriate thing. First of all, if we did something and we didn't know we did it because that can happen but you're supposed to research and let's say we designed something and maybe we used a similar frequency or controlled another company used. They said, "Hey, didn't know we did that let's sit, can we work out an agreement to license this from you?" Because it sounds like even though Google may downgrade they're still going to be violating rules. And it sounds like Sonos, they're a big company that they're going after nothing. They're going to keep pursuing them and Google's going to have to give up or they're going to keep paying the piper.


Marcus Heart:  (44:19)

I mean they have no choice and I'm just flabbergasted that a company as large as Google is not smart enough to come up with their stuff.


John C. Morley:   (44:31)

It's not that they're not smart enough. It's an issue of resources and being lazy and they feel that it's easier just like when you write code, it's easier to use a library providing that the library can be used in commercial applications. There are some libraries you can only use in teaching or student projects but you can't use them when you sell them to clients and you have to know these different things. Just like we know being in the media industry Marcus, certain music, if we haven't done it ourselves we have to license it for home. We have to license it for commercial. And you can't play games with that. I know many years ago we had a situation where that came up and we didn't know there was a problem. We talked with them and said, "Hey, we didn't know that. Can we remove it?" That's an innocent mistake and that can happen but when somebody deliberately causes it to happen then that's a problem and I am so disappointed with Google and where they're going and I've lost complete respect for Google, I have.


Marcus Heart:  (45:37)

And I do feel bad for many people who have purchased these products and people who are going to purchase future products like Sonas says that they're going to get the complete experience. They get knockoffs.


John C. Morley:   (45:52)

Well, they're getting the full Sonos product because they're copying the logic, the same logic you use to run a Sonos' home system they're putting into their Google equipment. So it's not a knockoff. And if they downgrade it, it's going to protect the import band because that's what the ITC is about. But then they'd have to pursue US trade bands because they're just going off of import bands right now. We have a whole other arena called the US band for US trademarks and that's a lot harder to get that one. The international one's a lot easier to get than one to fail but this one is a lot harder. At the end of the day, I just think that Google is not perfect and I think that they need to stop acting like a bunch of pomp and admit that they're wrong.


John C. Morley:   (46:56)

I wish that a company would come out with a better search technology than Google because I don't think they believe that they can. I think a better search technology comes out than Google and could fairly help the websites. I think Google is so one-sided and it's just not helping anybody. They're just advertising. They're very arrogant at this point. They're very arrogant. Well, we're just about the top of our hour Marcus. And before we do say goodbye, I want to personally thank the Diaspora Psychedelic Society that's, check them out. They have all these great antigens and sacred medicines and other wellness practices and training to help you reach your goals in healing and balance a healthy lifestyle of living.


John C. Morley:   (47:59)

And if you'd like to be a guest on our show go to, click on reach, shout today and apply to become a guest. We have this whole new system now that vets our guests because we're trying to bring great quality people on the show. I invite you to check out our shows and also if you have an idea for an unboxing, let us know but also check out my brand new program, actually a show that launched on the "Transform U Radio Network," called "The Inspirations for your Life." This is a place where you'll get the motivation needed to deal with everyday issues and different relationships and professional challenges and with that deep inner self-defeating thought mechanism. You'll be able to do so much more in your life because 95% of our life is run by our brain.


John C. Morley:   (48:52)

If you don't agree with something that program will still be running in your head even if you don't want it. So you can make a choice and stop those programs from looping in your head because somebody put them in there and I bet you, it probably wasn't you. That's why you may have beliefs that money's not worthy for you or maybe health's not good for you or maybe a good relationship is not for you or maybe you believe you don't deserve it. If you say something and for whatever reason, when you say it, if it clicks in your head, you believe it. If I say something like I'll never receive money and I hear that it doesn't click in my head anymore. That's because I've done the mental work to uproot the belief that I had many years ago which a lot of people do that you don't deserve something.


John C. Morley:   (49:37)

So you have to go working in the garden of your mind and we can't get into that right now but check out that program because we're going to give you nuggets of things you could do right now that will change a belief that will change your life forever. I'm John C. Morley, a serial entrepreneur. It has been a privilege, a pleasure, and an honor to be with you today and we're going to see you next week. It's the third week of January that'll be the 21st Marcus. I can't believe it. Well, have yourself a great rest of your day. A special shout out to the Princeton community team for hosting us and sharing our great knowledge. We're so grateful that they have chosen to air our programs. If you have a TV show station and you'd like to air our programs, talk to us and we possibly can make that happen for you. Have yourself a great rest of your week and everyone take the air. Thank you for tuning in to the JMOR weekly technology show where we answer your questions about how technology is supposed to work and sometimes while you have challenges getting it to work that way. For more, IT support and tips just text "IT support" to "888111." I'll see you next week right here on the JMOR tech talk show.





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