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John C. Morley
I mean, many years ago, you could tap them on the shoulder and there was no big deal. Okay? Today, you do more than handshake somebody or look at them the wrong way, and they consider it an assault, or they consider it abuse. So I think our culture has changed a lot. And I'm not so much in support it but it is what it is just like after 9/11, our world changed. And I think we as people and individuals, we have a responsibility to be accountable for our actions. And I also see that when they say the frat thing, I believe that it's like, what you said to this person and it's like a team. It's not just that they're going and making innuendoes or comments to the ladies. But I believe it's also like edging them on, you could do it, you could do it, you could do it. And I feel that's what it's like, and that's why I think they're calling it the frat boy culture, because if it was just one person, we're cold people and they were doing it, we could just snip it the bud, and we could handle it. But this has gotten way too out of hand, Marcus. Hello, everyone. It's that time for the JMOR Tech Talk Show where we answer questions about technology, explain the way they should work and why they don’t sometimes. And now here's your host, John C. Morley. Well, Hey, everybody, it is John C. Morley, serial entrepreneur here. And you're tuned into the JMOR Tech Talk Show. It is always great to be here on another Friday. And this Friday is basically kind of the end of the month. We only have one more after the 20th. We just have today and next week and we're at September, Marcus.
Marcus Hart
We moving right into the fall for what's coming our way.
John C. Morley
Definitely. Welcome, Marcus, it's always great to be with you my trusty co-host with some great commentary and great information for our viewers. It's good to be here. So let's get right into things. So one thing that's been happening and we've been talking a lot about this is people's rights, right? Well, Activision Blizzard employees signed a petition denouncing the companies and I quote, a poor response to a lawsuit. So this pressure comes on Activision Blizzard as their mounting is more than 2000 current and former employees signed a petition to slam what they see as the video game companies what they call porn and insulting response to the California lawsuit. So Activision Blizzard, the publisher, you may or may not know of a hugely popular game known as Call of Duty. I'm sure you guys all know Call of Duty or you have friends or family members that have played or are currently playing that incessantly. And also, I'm sure you know, WWC, World of Warcraft Craft, right? And they're headquartered in Santa Monica, California. They have approximately 9500. Let me say that again, 9500 employees, that's according to the state's filing as of just a few days ago. So a spokesperson from the company blasted the state's filing investigation, saying it's an accurate and distorted a statement to see it in. As I quote, "following the lawsuit, the company did not immediately respond to the request that was made this past Monday. So the company's statements in response to the lawsuit, and I quote, are apart and insulting to all that we believe our company should stand for. The petition said and I quote, to put it clearly and unequivocably our values as employees are not accurately reflected in the words and actions of our leadership". The petition also cited internal statements by Francis Townson, a former George W. Bush administration, counterterrorism official and Activision Blizzard's Executive Vice President of Corporate affairs. Wow. But getting into what it really is about this, petition calls for official statements that recognize the seriousness of these allegations and demonstrate compassion for victims of harassment and assault. And for Townsend to resign her position as an executive sponsor of the company's employee Women's Network, I think that says something or sending a message, Marcus, what do you think?
Marcus Hart
They're sending a big message and you’re doing this in a state that is known as the most woke state out of all the states in the United States. California is very known for its wokeism, and you're barking up the wrong branch here.
John C. Morley
Now in case you're wondering what tree Marcus and I are climbing, we're talking specifically about employees that have known detailed experiences. They're documented at Activision Blizzard on social media since the last week's lawsuit, and they accused the company of fostering, "Frat boy work culture". And what does that really mean? Well, it's where female employees have to continually fend off unwanted sexual comments and advances by their male coworkers. So it's a frat house 24/7.
Marcus Hart
Yeah, pretty much.
John C. Morley
And they're complaining about what's going on. And, I mean, first, they're stating that the women are bringing it on themselves. I don't think they are. I mean, I think the question has to come into play, are they dressing provocatively? It doesn't seem like they are. And it sounds like the company is just not really responding to these requests. And they're trying to blow it off and say that we're blowing it out of proportion, Marcus.
Marcus Hart
And it's all the misdirection into taking the time out to invest resources to actually investigate it and take some responsibility to-- even the allegations coming out at all, So why even push it aside and try to turn a blind eye? And you [inaudible 06:15] woman involved all nerves to sit up here and turn a blind eye.
John C. Morley
Well, for that lady to pull her support. And obviously I know why she did it, the thing is this when people act a certain way, I don't know, if they don't understand-- I like to say that when somebody gets past the age of 18, okay, they should have some brains. And it's important for people of all genders to think what their heads at all times, I think sometimes they don't do that, and it gets them into trouble. And when that happens, they always want to blame the media, they always want to blame everybody. But really, the person, Marcus, they should be blaming is themselves. I think there's this whole exercise of accountability, and how they're just annoyed because the media is calling them out. And one time, I don't agree with the media all the time, you know that we don't always agree. I have to say though, this time, I believe the media is right. And I believe that these incidents that happened and they were documented, I think the company needs to go back and readapt the culture and also reprimand these people for what's going on. And if they're not going to reprimand them, they at least, Marcus, need to write them up. Okay, don't fire them, but they need to write them up. And maybe they need to bring in somebody to do a sexual harassment training. I mean, many years ago, you could tap some in the shoulder and there was no big deal. Okay? Today, you do more than handshake somebody or look at them the wrong way, and they consider an assault, or they considered abuse. So I think our culture has changed a lot. And I'm not so much in supporting it, but it is what it is. Just like after 9/11, our world changed. And I think we as people and individuals, we have a responsibility to be accountable for our actions. And I also see that when they say the frat thing, I believe that it's like, you know what you said to this person, and it's like a teaming. So it's not just that they're going and making insinuendo or comments to the ladies. But I believe it's also like edging them on like, Oh, come on, you could do it, you could do it, you could do it. And I feel that's what it's like. And that's why I think they're calling it the frat boy culture. Because if it was just one person or a couple people, and they were doing it, we could just snip it in the bud and we could handle it. But this has gotten way too out of hand, Marcus.
Marcus Hart
Yeah.
John C. Morley
And I even believe that this isn't a management. And that's why there's so much pushback. Management is basically doing these things and being the frat for some of these younger guys that are there. That's what I think is happening. They want to be cool. They want to act well. They want to-- Yeah, we're gonna get you that promotion. Don’t worry, what do you think about her? They're trying to placate and I think that happens so much. Marcus, we're having a talk about this on my LinkedIn just last night. And I was saying that in corporate culture, people play games. They play games, and then when you call them out on the carpet, oh, we never said that. We would never do that. Well, you're mistaken. Like, we would never do that. Oh, and then suddenly, you're the bad guy. I think a message has to be sent from the top of the company. And I honestly think they got to hit them below the belt, they got to hit them with a large fine. And I think when that happens or at least say, look, this is where you're at, we have proof of this, we're about to hit you with a large fine unless in 90 days, we have proof that you're taking a directions to remedy the situation, and we'll be monitoring you. And if we don't see it, we might just slap you with a, I don't know, few million dollar fine, 5, 10 million dollar fine. And I think to be honest with you, that if that doesn't do it, if they do this again, then I think it should be jail time. Because I don't want them to think that money can get them out of any mistake, too many people think that. So we're gonna have to follow that and see what's happening. I'm sure we'll have some juicy nuggets about what's going on. But there's gonna be a lot of pushback. But this is different than the Facebook, it's different than the Instagram. And I think it's different because management is involved. All the other times, it was just some interns or some workers, but it was isolated. So we'll just have to kind of see what's happening and what they're going to do and what this is all going to mean. But I feel that we've got to take some serious action, Marcus, and go after these people and send a message. Because if that lady's pulling out support, and they're losing money, they're losing sponsorships. You know what happens in the Olympics when somebody does something wrong, they suddenly pull out. There was a one lady, not to get too off on a tangent. And she was leaving, and she was getting ready to have a baby. And she wanted protection. I think it was Nike or one of those companies, I forget who, you probably remember. And she was good all these times. And she said, Look, I just don't want you to judge me for this year, because I had a hard time with my kid and things going on. And she wrote the letter, you know what they said? We can't protect you. But then after she made the action, they protected her and other women athletes. It's just baloney. It is just baloney. Everything unfortunately is politics, it's not nice to say.
Marcus Hart
No, it's not.
John C. Morley
But it's all politics. And it's all who you know. And this is why I'm not a big fan of large companies, because I just feel like there's just a click. I feel like it's like grammar score high school over again. If you're not in with the right crowd, well, then you got to work for five. If you're with the in crowd, don't worry about it. You could work till two and just put down your let the five, it's no big deal. I'm not gonna say anything. And that's what happens, Marcus.
Marcus Hart
Yeah.
John C. Morley
It becomes the in crowd. And then suddenly, if you're not gawking over the person or let's say supporting their insinuendos, Oh, well, that's how you're gonna be, we'll get out. That's kind of the mentality. And that's where the frat mentality comes from. So we'll have to see what happens. In other news, one of our carriers did something that was not just a slap on the wrist. A major carrier T Mobile, actually confirmed just a few days ago that it was struck by a data breach.
Marcus Hart
Oh, wow.
John C. Morley
Yeah, T Mobile actually confirmed this, this past Monday and was hit by a data breach. But of course, they declined to say whether any personal information from customers was accessed or how widespread the damage would be. So they acknowledge the breach. After hackers told the vice president that they were selling full custom information. Of course, they're in trouble. I mean, why would they admit this? They're going to damage the company's reputation. They claimed that it pertained to over 100 million people they were going to sell information on. The company says and I quote, "They're aware of the claims made in underground forum and actively quote, investigating their validity". Come off it. If you're hacked, let's stop playing the game. If it's a duck, talks, asks, walks and looks like a duck. It's probably a duck, Marcus.
Marcus Hart
More than likely. I've ever seen nothing that mocks a duck.
John C. Morley
Yeah, it's a duck so it's a hack.
Marcus Hart
Yeah.
John C. Morley
And when they talked about the vulnerability used by hackers to gain entry into the T Mobile system, and I quote, "It was the highest degree of urgency to investigate the breach". So it was funny that they said in a company that they had, let's say, close the loop on the hackers. But this really wasn't true. And I quote, "We had been working around the clock to investigate claims being made. The T mobile data may have been illegally accessed". Get off of it. We know it was accessed. They just said they have all these records. Don't tell people it may. Don't lie to people.
Marcus Hart
Yeah, definitely telling us that it's raining when it's not.
John C. Morley
That's like the lady from-- what was it? We talked about this about a few weeks ago or a month ago, it was a great adventure. Well, it didn't actually come off the track. The wheels from the back might have separated but it did what it was supposed to but it didn't come off the track. I mean, Come off it. They're twisting the truth. And I quote, they also said, "We have determined that unauthorized access to some t mobile data occurred. However, we've not determined that there is any personal customer data []. Get lost. Get lost. It's like every time they open their mouth, they never say anything truthful. They might as well just keep it shut.
Marcus Hart
Yeah, I used to have a grandmother that said that you’re lying and telling them the truth at the same time.
John C. Morley
They always said that when is a politician not telling the truth?
Marcus Hart
Yeah, I heard that one.
John C. Morley
When he opens his mouth. So T Mobile is saying that, basically, until they get their assessments completed, they're not going to confirm anything. They said that they're going to update their customers and the stakeholders once the investigation has been completed and they have true answers. I don't know, Marcus, I think this just seems like a jerk around. And that they really don't have an intention, to be honest, until they're gonna have to be.
Marcus Hart
Yeah, I mean, I'll tell you one thing. The report says that their stock fell 3%. I think if it falls any further that's when they got to make that decision there.
John C. Morley
We talked about this before, Marcus. I always say companies cannot afford-- the ones that say they can't afford a back of the day, they cannot afford to not backup their data. And it's not just about their data. But I don't know if you know this, and we'll talk about this on another show, ransomware is up. I did a whole show on that. Ransomware is statistics that attacks are up. And the thing is, most people, they get attacked are part of these big companies. Now, even if they have a small company, if they have assets in a multi-billion dollar company, well, that company could get hacked. Because they're doing targeting, Marcus, they're doing what I'm going to call spear phishing, where they're going directly for the big enchiladas. They don't want the guy making a million dollars. They want the entire portfolio that as a $10 billion. It's interesting and more on the hacker stories, the anonymous hackers stole 600 million in cryptocurrency, right?
Marcus Hart
Wow.
John C. Morley
Now here's the oxymoron though and then he gave it back.
Marcus Hart
Is that just to like kind of just demonstrate what they're capable of doing?
John C. Morley
I don't know if it was more of a threat, you know what I'm saying? And a quote that was recently put on Twitter, Mr. White Hat, Attorney refers to an ethical hacker who raises awareness of security flaws, has returned all the stolen funds safe for a small percentage that had been frozen by the cryptocurrency issuer tether following the attack. Now, if you're doing something and you're a white hacker, because I've done white hacking before legally, you have to let certain people know what you're doing. You have to maybe let the media know or somebody that you know that you know, you're doing this, you don't tell them what company say, Hey, we're checking a certain company out. I don't really know if this person's doing what he says in honest intention. I think he didn't plan on giving the money back. I think he might have talked to his lawyers and realize that this could be a real problem for him. What do you think, Marcus?
Marcus Hart
Yeah, this is pretty widespread. And this is supposed to be a decentralized finance platform. And anytime you involve yourself in something this huge and you penetrate it, there’s going to be some big boys come knocking at your door.
John C. Morley
Exactly. And I quote, he says, "I am not interested in money. He's full of bull. Right. The co-founder of the forensics firm, Epileptic Polly network has offered a $500,000 bounty to the attacker. Although it appears the hacker acknowledged receiving a bounty offer. It was never accepted according to notes. I also don't believe that nonsense either.
Marcus Hart
Yeah, very, very much well, possible that he did [inaudible 21:56] and just [21:57].
John C. Morley
I think he did that to put the fear in them. I really do. But I also think he was out for the money. I think he realized that if he went through it this Marcus, it could have been a real bad not just day, but a very bad year for him.
Marcus Hart
Yeah, he would’ve been running for the rest of his life.
John C. Morley
He'd have to go to another country. Well, the thing people don't realize about cryptocurrencies, it's not really controlled yet. And there's so many places overseas and Canada. But on all people are going to have to be taxed on cryptocurrency. So there's a lot of outfits that are trying to create this anonymous cryptocurrency. But I have news for you, someone rob that cryptocurrency, you just lost your money. There's no FDIC insurance on it.
Marcus Hart
Yeah, had that been took him for real, like you said, none of that would have been returned back. So there was no way that was gonna be insured.
John C. Morley
And I feel that he did this to catch certain people's eyes. I also believe the job offer, they tell us this but I think it was made. I just feel that his story about doing things to security is all bull. I think he wanted to come off as a good guy. But then what I think happened is he had the intention to keep the money and then somebody hired him and the money was returned. But they don't tell us that part of the story, Marcus, we have to kind of interpolate that. In other news, speaking about technology, a lot of the big boys in the tech companies are really starting to love the hybrid work environment. Some people are selling buildings and having people work from home and given them a whole $100. Well, don't spend in one place, right? So they can outfit their place a little bit nicer. Some companies I know I've given as much as $500 to outfit themselves with a comfortable work pad, wanting to do for $500 not much. But it's more complicated than that, Marcus, because the small businesses are not really able to embrace this new way of life, not because they don't want to but because they don't have the money or the resources to handle this. Doing remote working is big money. And there's so much it has to be set up and created so that people can build a new office culture without an office. There are lots of companies out there, Marcus. For me, there's one company, I think they're in China. And they're renting buildings Marcus, virtual buildings for more money than the physical buildings cost. And they're putting your-- so you have an architect, you have a virtual architect. So just like you would do something in a real building, you have an architect for your virtual building. This is nuts.
Marcus Hart
This is really crazy. What a different world we in.
John C. Morley
And now when you get mail delivery, well, you can get mail delivery to your virtual office. You can mail to that physical address which basically goes through the mail. But it's really just going to one building, but they have it all routed. And then when the mail comes in, they scan it. And you have the mail in your mail room, in your virtual office. As someone said, and I quote, 'It has to be more intentional, especially when the teams are distributed. Those are the things that most people worried about and actively working on." Having teams or having Skype or slack is great. But if you don't have the culture, and the rules, and checks and balances set up, you're just setting yourself up for failure. And I quote Mr. Zuckerberg, "It's not just companies in their founders, some startup investors are also rethinking their long held views on the right way to build new products. That's interesting. So that means that a lot of companies that startup don't have to have a building?
Marcus Hart
This one is turning into-- and we know Mark Zuckerberg himself now works more than half of the year now. [inaudible 27:11] now for more than half a year remotely. So I think there's gonna be a lot of startups adopting that same mentality, as is it does comes with some benefits to it.
John C. Morley
But are people really going to get back to work, Marcus? Because I don't know about you and your area, but unemployment runs out for a lot in September.
Marcus Hart
Yeah.
John C. Morley
Now, are they going to be stupid and reinstate unemployment or are they going to tell people to get back to work?
Marcus Hart
That's the million dollar question.
John C. Morley
I think we're gonna have to wait until whatever it is, September 5th or September 6th, whatever it is. And I know some places that have school elections, they want to delay it until April Marcus claiming that they have too much on their plate. I think people are just making excuses, Marcus, they're intentionally procrastinating. We all know that schools and didn't really teach much, and kids didn't learn anything. This whole year coming into school is going to be called catch up. I was talking to one owner of what he called After School Tutoring Service as like a place where they come. And she agreed that they're not going to learn anything this year, they're just gonna catch up. It's gonna be an interesting, it's been an interesting year. And then with the COVID vaccines number three coming out, they're saying they keep changing it. They say if you have the Moderna, it was six. I had the Pfizer, it's 12 from the second. Now they're changing and saying eight months, they have something for the Johnson-Johnson. But they're also saying that they're not giving the shots out to the people that are healthy. You know they're starting with? The people that have cancer, because they're the most vulnerable. In fact, couple people just the other day got their first COVID three, their third COVID shop. But they're also stating, Marcus, that this COVID vaccine thing is going to become a yearly addendum. And the country's just going to keep paying for this, which I think is insane.
Marcus Hart
Yeah, it is.
John C. Morley
But they really don't have an answer. And speaking about things getting pushed around. Mark is actually pushing his offices to not open until January of 2022.
Marcus Hart
Yeah, and he's not being drove by what's-- since he's more drove what's been like the theme of like-- since this pandemic, he thinks it's the right move.
John C. Morley
I quote something he said, "data not dates" is what drives our approach returning to the office. I don't really know about that. They're showing that COVID is rising in some areas based on the Delta variant. And teams in the US, they're saying will not be required to go back to the office until January 2022. What happens in January 2022? Do we say we're going to wait till February or March?
Marcus Hart
I don't think that there's going to be something special that happens that can tip these numbers backwards.
John C. Morley
Exactly, Marcus. And the interesting thing about this is that Facebook's decision comes just days after Amazon announced it would not bring its corporate workers back to the office until January 3rs, 2022. What's going on here? I don't think it has to do with dates or data markers. I think it has a thing to be, let's follow the Joneses.
Marcus Hart
Yeah, that's what it really appears to be. And the dawgs at the top are a part of a little club. And it's usually monkeys [inaudible 31:29]
John C. Morley
Right? Well, speaking about the monkeys, we have another one that's gonna be trying to be even better than I can open up February, Lyft has delayed its reopening until February 2nd. And with them, Google and Uber, and Microsoft, have adopted a different approach to let's just wait and see and we'll delay until we see it's best.
Marcus Hart
I'm just wondering, John, what type of customer service are we going to be really getting from out of these companies?
John C. Morley
See, this is a big problem. I'm not gonna mention the name of the company. But I know one of our clients has a very large VIP office rental space in the United States. They recently outsourced one of their services, they were in Bangladesh, now they sent them out to India. I went to one the other day and we had to do an installation, and these people, you can't talk to them. You have to talk to a manager. They asked for your skype information. They ping it to them, they then ping you and then you chat via video chat. I'm sorry, I think we're going backwards here. I am all for equal opportunity employment. And I'm all for letting people for different countries work. I don't have a total against about that. Although we should be allowing people in the United States that can't afford to put food on the table to get a job first and get a decent pay. I have a problem with the fact that you get these people overseas, and they suddenly want to gouge you. Because they know that's what the US rate is paying. See, that's wrong, that's not what they're getting paid. They're gouging people. And then I have another problem. It's called accountability. And you've probably seen this before. They fall off the earth, and then they give you excuses, and they don't do anything. We don't have that kind of a culture in the United States. And I talk to those people, I say, if you acted like this, United States, you'd be fired or deported. We just don't tolerate that type of mentality or mindset, right?
Marcus Hart
Right. And it's a shame that it's not widely spread for that to be known and people rather sit on their big hands and allow some of the [34:18] to happen.
John C. Morley
Exactly, Marcus. And the other thing I have a problem with and that is that people are looking for others to be sorry for themselves. Get off it. Like, do what you have to do. Don't look for people to be sorry for you or feel sorry for you. That's the biggest challenge I think with COVID. I know there have been challenges-- I had somebody the other day, I know that had gotten it. And I said, Well, you can't come back to work and he says, Well, why not? He says, I didn't catch it. I wasn't around anybody. They weren't home yet but they did get. I said, that's too risky. That's too risky. Well, I can get tested and come in. No. No. And I'm like, oh, okay, so how do I work? I guess virtually I mean, I mean, I just feel people's heads are in the gutters and they don't realize, Marcus that what they're doing is affecting everyone else in the population. I'm going to go back to what I always say WIIFM and WIIFY. They're all into WIIFM, "What's in it for me? Instead of 'What's in it for you? They're selfish. How many people do you know the world besides your family, your friends, you do something great and they're not cheering you on? I had a lady the other day, I'm not gonna mention her name, I posted something. And it happened to be a company that ran this board on LinkedIn. And they run a local social media company here. I got a message from them privately, saying, Can you cool it? You got to stop monopolizing the board. I said, I post once a day. I post valuable content to help people improve their lives. Yeah, I just don't monopolize the board so much. And what I've come to the conclusion is it's not about monopolizing the board. It's about the fact that you're making them look bad.
Marcus Hart
Yeah, that's what it sounds like. It sounds very [sp 36:50] explicit.
John C. Morley
Yeah. And I said to you this once before, and I'll say it again, there are three stages to success. Step one, nobody knows you, nobody cares about it, nobody really gives a darn. Step two, people start hating you, people start criticizing you. people start trying to block you. I had a lady in my own town that was on a board. And the administrator said to me, she says, I don't have your tax records. What does that mean? Well, we haven't validated your ownership in our town. And you're here more as a guest right now because we never really got your proof that you live here. And I just opened my mouth and I'm like, you, I won't say anything bad but You have some nerve, I'm saying to myself. I have a first responder I do stuff. And I said, Can I ask why you would even ask something so stupid. She said, Well, wait, we got a we got a question from a member. One of your 1900 people that stuck up something stuck far. And I have a problem with that. And I've been seeing more of it and more of it, Marcus, where these people are trying to rain on other people's parade. So the message I tell people is that if you're not harming somebody, and you're providing value to the world, and somebody tells you to stop, don't. I had the same thing happen to [sp] ruckers. I have over five or 10,000 people on their board, one of their students get back because you're posting an awful lot. Once a day, with things that can grow your life, Come off it. So I've been noticing that a lot around COVID time.
Marcus Hart
Terrible excuses for why they can remain complacent and then just expect you to slow down so that they can just continue to be complacent.
John C. Morley
That's exactly my point. And I had a question the other night and the question was, I think it was a few nights ago and it was why is it other people are not happy and celebrate your joys, victories and triumphs? And I know the reason is because they're jealous. They're envious because they don't like the fact that you're getting ahead, because they don't like the fact that you're getting exposure. That's what it comes down to. But it's sad that we have people like that, that do that. Did I lose you, Marcus? Oh, there you are. Okay. So another point, speaking on other things that are in the news, We heard learn a lot about Facebook, but we haven't talked a lot about our friend Mr. Good, Jeff Bezos. Well, he's doing something a little bit interesting. Get this Marcus. He's suing NASA.
Marcus Hart
Oh man, that's a little bit different. That's very different. We haven't heard about any lawsuit for NASA.
John C. Morley
So he filed a sealed complaint, which means they can't disclose what it's totally about. It challenges NASA's unlawful and improper evaluation of proposals in selecting Elon Musk's SpaceX to build a spacecraft that will land the next American on the moon according to a federal court filing. This is just bull.
Marcus Hart
It sounds like billionaire problems to me. It's like fighting over the toy.
John C. Morley
It's absolutely crazy. Companies with billions of dollars never cease to amaze lots of people with the tactics and all their childhood games or below the belt business practices to force NASA to do business with Blue Ocean after tactical complaints. Would anybody even want to work with Blue Ocean?
Marcus Hart
Yeah, I don't think they would want to work with Blue Ocean after seeing something like this, you can say okay, well, if he's not going to get his way, he's going to try to force our hand [inaudible 41:39] way into getting what he wants.
John C. Morley
But then people will always know him as the guy that used his power and money to basically force a hand. I'm starting to have a lot of disrespect for this man. I never really had a lot. I never was in love with the guy, but I'm really starting to have a bad taste in my mouth for this Jeff guy. I mean, we've all been upset with Amazon and how they provide the highest level of customer service, which is a real untruth. But the way he's acting and what he's doing just makes me not even want to have a respect or any regard for this man. I used to think he was up to something good and people were knocking Elon but I have to tell you something. Elon really doesn't get in any pissing contest with people. He kind of stays to himself for the most part. I mean, everybody has their moments, but he really tries to just do his thing and he really doesn't try to go raining anybody's parade. He might build something. But he's not a guy, I think, that would actually try to sue NASA If he didn't get a space shuttle bill. I just don't think you would do that. This guy, Jeff, I feel that-- I wouldn't be a bit surprised, It may be the federal court bars him from even bidding anymore.
Marcus Hart
Yeah, that's definitely a possibility. Seem like that could be coming down the turnpike if he doesn't be careful because why would you do this? If they say no, it's just no, it's just no.
John C. Morley
He's trying to force the hand and say, Hey, I'm the bigger man. And I'm getting what I want because I have money so does Elon. Instead of it being a value proposition to help people, Marcus, is becoming a power trip. You remember when you were in grammar school or high school and almost in grammar school. And you either be a team captain yourself, or sometimes you weren't lucky enough to be picked as a team captain by your gym instructor. But a lot of times, you did get picked but not all the time were you actually the one and you sat there and you waited for people to pick you. And maybe you weren't as athletic as so many other people and you didn't get picked. And then at the end, okay, and you can just go on such and such team. And it was like, you got picked by default? I don't think anything worse than that.
Marcus Hart
Yeah, no, one really likes that. And I think this would happen in the case of Blue Origin when they first started doing their project because they were not the first commercial to do it, commercial aircraft to do.
John C. Morley
So winning by default, being chosen by default is not great. And it also gets me to think of something on a relationship level. If you're dating somebody, and let's just say for example, now this other person comes along and let's say that something goes sour, this relationship, well, that person wins by default. It's not great for that person to know that they were a rebound. You know, like, oh, I'll settle for you. I'm gonna just really, and some guys are stupid enough to say that. Well, I'll settle for you since there's nobody else right now. Wasn't me, you're gonna dump the person once you find somebody better. I mean, like, right. So I have a problem with that and I think Mr. Jeff needs to grow up. I think he needs to realize that what he's doing is not really what he's setting out to do. I think the reason he's doing this space thing is not because he wants to do something better for the country. I think it's about money. And I think it's about him getting in the limelight to be first. That's what it's about.
Marcus Hart
Yeah, I definitely agree.
John C. Morley
Money is important, but I think it's about being first and money's probably second.
Marcus Hart
Yeah, so it's definitely a naval trip. And like you said, it's pretty disgusting.
John C. Morley
It is and to see this guy, but we'll see what happens with the court. And the thing about this is that as we talk about this whole thing, it goes back and forth, It just shows you the type of character that's in this person, Jeff. I didn't really know him very well in the beginning, but the way he built the Amazon. I mean, I know he built a billion dollar company, but I have to say, Marcus, it's got the lowest level of customer service in the industry.
Marcus Hart
And not just that, just the way they treat their employees, they could definitely treat their employees a lot more better.
John C. Morley
They treat their employees very bad. And then you know, when they make mistakes and you talk to somebody, you have the same problems going on. Like I told you what happened, I had a drone delivered to me and it got stolen. Oh, well, what do we do? Well, we can't help because it was a third party ship. What does that mean to me? Well, we had to do an investigation. I had to file a complaint with better business bureau, Consumer Affairs and District Attorney General's Office, send it to them and they [inaudible 47:54] told me, you didn't have to do that we were already in the process of your refund. Yeah, get lost. They're all about politics. I remember one time opening a fulfillment account with them which I'd never do again. And I wasn't even using the account and I was getting billed and it took me almost six months to cancel it.
Marcus Hart
Yeah, they're very notorious. You remove a credit card, credit cards removed off the account. It magically pops up. It's like how did you remember my credit card number?
John C. Morley
Well, that's what I say and when you call the number, it's like, well we don't have an account for-- but here's my card now. Well we need to know what email, what account. Well, I deleted that. We can't help you. You but you're charging me. Well, we don't know what's department. So finally, I had to go to Federal Trade Commission, Dobra, Department of Banking and Insurance Commission and they got to the bottom. But, Marcus, a lot of people even though they're bright, they don't know the pathways to take, they don't know what to do. It's very interesting. And speaking about things that are said. CBS, Central Broadcasting Station, they sell an iconic Manhattan building. They plan, they put on the market, the iconic building, Black Rock Manhattan headquarters of CBS. They plan to sell it to the harbor group international for 760 million. The sale was supposed to transpire by the end of this year. The move is to shed assets to free up the company's finances in order to focus more things like streaming, according to many the key spokespeople and this one gentleman here, Mr. J. Babbin. And I quote him, he says, "I can't deny that seeing this hits me in the heart. I've made a lot of visits to that legendary building over the years. Admittedly, it's not going anywhere. Good luck to the crew that would tackle that job. But some of its storied history changes with this." So the building's not being taken down. And I have to admit, they might take the name CBS off the building.
Marcus Hart
Yeah, I think that's gonna definitely go with that. But it would definitely be quite cultured if they kept it on there. But I don't see them keeping it on there.
John C. Morley
I think it would preserve some of the heritage of it, what they did.
Marcus Hart
Right, it would, it definitely would.
John C. Morley
But these real estate companies, they're really not out to make people feel good, they're just out for the money.
Marcus Hart
Yeah, they're not in the feel good business.
John C. Morley
But something like that and I don't know if the Rainbow Room is next. Because I think isn't that in the same building? I'm not sure if that's gonna-- Yeah. So I wonder if that restaurant will close?
Marcus Hart
That's an interesting question.
John C. Morley
But people don't realize when you do something, and I know people do things for profit, I get it, we all try to be profitable. I just feel that when you do something, you have to have an understanding. For example, if you're a realtor, and you're buying a building, and you're buying, let's say this nursing home, for example. And you buy it, because you want to knock it down and you want to build skyscraper condos. And when you knock the people out of that building, that are paying the price there, where are all those people gonna go? Hundreds of people, now you're going to get millions of dollars. But what about all those people that you knocked out of their homes? You're not going to relocate them? It's like, sorry. And what about all the people that work in that building? I just feel that when people make decisions, again, they're thinking with the wrong head. They're thinking with their head and the top but they're thinking in a logical perspective. Now, I don't say logic is wrong and business because you have to think logically. But I believe, Marcus, sometimes you need to have a heart. Now I know you can't do that every day. I know many years talking to creditors, many years ago when I'd always get them. And I was very good, I was like, so I understand. So it's like-- so what challenges you having in your life? Well, man, so you're fine, you're clear of any problems? Oh, your daughter? Oh, how's your daughter doing? Oh, your daughter broke her leg? Oh, that's sorry to hear that. That must be a really tough thing on your family. And I know you're working here because you're getting the money. So I know you don't agree with the company's philosophies. And it must be hard trying to keep your daughter and your wife and everyone happy-- it's very hard. This was years and years ago. And the guy was just like, he was almost in tears on the phone. And so I guess everything's about money, isn't it? I guess sometimes have that extra $50, that $100. I mean, I know you would give anything that you had to make your daughter walk again, wouldn't you? And sometimes I think we take that out on other people. And that's not a good thing to do. I'm not saying you're doing that. But I don't want you to have a vengeance for me. You don't know me. And I've had an excellent track record in the past. And it's the first time I've ever asked your company for anything. Due to a catastrophe that happened in my life where no fault of my own, an accident or had a skiing accident, no fault of my own. And put me on hold, came back to the phone. And it goes Mr. Morley, he says, you touched me. I said Oh, I'm sorry. No, it's okay. I don't get calls like this that often. It's as usual, I just tell them that we can't go there. Well, then what made you allow me to go there with you? Well, you made it personal about my family. Normally, when somebody asked for something, they talked about their life and what's going on, in my [inaudible 55:01]. See, that's not important, that's not going to make your heart bleed. When I talk about your daughter, your father, your mother, your brother, your sister, that's gonna make you really come to the table. And I said, What can we do? And he says, Well, we can give you a six month extension, so I could pay that payment of nine, or whatever it was. And so, I feel sometimes there are some companies, whether it be credit card, whether it be-- they're just very stark. And I'm not gonna mention the name of a company. But there's one company where he threw everybody out of the building, because they couldn't pay during COVID. And he went to sue every single one of them. And he threatened them so much, that they just gave them all they had. They paid it and he threw them out. Because the cost of the courts were going to be so much more that they scraped bottom just to be able to pay to the end of the year, and it kicked them out. And as long as they paid to the end of the year, he wasn't going to sue them for anymore. But that's terrible, Marcus, when people don't have a heart. And I know in business, you can't always think with your heart. You can't. You have to think logically. However, when you're doing something that's going to affect a large amount of people, I think you have to ask yourself, Am I doing the right thing? Why am I doing this? Is it going to be-- I have a phrase, I think, I've shared with you. And I it's a mantra that I repeat, and I've shared with people, and it's large sums of money come to me easily and quickly, in increasing quantities from multiple sources on a continuous basis, for the good of all that I get to keep. That last part is extremely important, for the good of all that I get to keep. That means you're not stealing, you're not doing something that's gonna ruin someone else's life. You're getting money and it's for the good of all, and you get to keep it. Very powerful. Too many times people do things just because of the greed of money. And the Latin phrase, [Latin language], which has gotten a lot of people to focus away from money. Now, money is not a bad thing and money is not greed. It's how you choose to use your money. You can have millions of dollars. Just like we can have a program, we can have a podcast. It's not the podcast, technology that's good or bad. It's not the money that's good or bad. It's how you're choosing to use that money. You use that money to help your friends, your family, you help yourself, you treat yourself, your award yourself, you have great things in life, that's fine. You're entitled to all that abundance. But if you have that money to burn somebody or to buy vengeance on someone, that's wrong. And that's where it's greed. And when you do that, and I'm not going to get into religion here, but that's when you put your possessions above-- religious things. I happen to be Roman Catholic not to get into that. But in my case, I put above the Lord. So if you believe in your Creator, if you put it above your Creator, that's when it comes back to bite you. People always say, Well, you can't have anything, you have to have nothing. No, they're not saying you can't have nothing. They want you to be wealthy. But they want you to use your gifts and use them in a good manner that are going to help others and that people are going to want to pay you. That's what it comes down to. And when a lot of people see this money, and they see a way to get it, they don't think about the people they're going to knock over. Now, I'm not saying you can't be competitive in your life. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that you need to realize that whatever you do in life has to be good and good for all. And when you do that, money just seems to multiply. It's about having a mindset. And the last thing I'm going to leave on this because it's important is that abundance doesn't come from outside of you. Abundance comes from within. So be grateful for everything you have right now whether it's a penny, whether it's $1, whether it's a pen, whether it's an iPhone, whether it's a glass of water. Be grateful for every little thing you have and for when you're grateful for everything, more things will start showing up in your life. When you focus on what you have, and you're grateful for it, you put that energy out to the world. When we focus on abundance, more abundance comes to us. And you might say, John, how can I be abundant, I don't have a job, my this, my that, I'm in a divorce. I hear you. Okay. And many people were in a situation just like you. And what you have to realize is that this is just today. You're here because of the thoughts you had yesterday and the days before, start changing your mindset so that from here, tomorrow, with a day's forward, you'll be able to look back and see that where you've become, it's because of the new thoughts you put into your brain. But you have to start from that whole point. And if you don't have money to be abundant about, be abundant about things in your universe. I tell people, take the letters of the alphabet and think of everything you could be abundant about. A, I'm not gonna go to every letter, air. B, birds. C, cars. Just be thankful for things around. People go, John, that's nuts. No, that's being abundant. The greatest thing I tell people do is go to a field and see everything in that field that's abundant. Because realize you are abundant. Think abundantly and more abundance will show up in your life.
Marcus Hart
I love that. I love that, John. That’s well said. That really helps take it to the next level.
John C. Morley
I think so as well. And we're at the top of our hour. And it is always great to be with you. And we had a great show. And I want to encourage you, ladies and gentlemen, if you have an idea for a JMOR Tech Talk Show, visit jmor.com. And if you have an idea for an unboxing, let us know what the product is. You'll have to donate to us and send it to us. And we'll be happy to take care of that for you. If you do decide to be a guest. It's not a selling show. It's education. I also want to invite you to show some love to all of our channels, which you can find at jmor.com under social. And what I say to people is our videos are free. Okay. But if you feel like you just want to say thank you, my team and I are so grateful for every penny and every dollar we receive. We have a PayPal link below every video. Because we want to continue to give back to our great world. But we can only do this when we impact great people's lives like yourself. It has been another amazing evening, Marcus, to be with you.
Marcus Hart
Same here, John.
John C. Morley
And we will be here next week. And remember my friends, the abundance lies within you. For if you're trying to pull abundance from the outside world, you'll never find it. It'll just slip right through your fingers. You're already abundant, my friends. Start being grateful for that abundance and more of it will show up. Focus on lack and you'll get more lack in your life and that's promise. I am John C, Morley, serial entrepreneur, and you've been watching the JMOR Tech Talk Show and unfortunately, we have to say goodbye. I wish we could stay all night. Have yourself a great one. And remember to catch our audio show tomorrow at 10 o'clock. We'll get to catch some great information. We'll see you next week, everyone. Have yourself a great rest of the night.
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