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Radio show date 12-10-2021

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John C. Morley: (00:02)

Okay. We're so sorry about that one. No, I want to speak to a supervisor. Well, supervisors are at a meeting, Of course, they are. They're always in a meeting. Marcus. 

Marcus: (00:13)


John C. Morley: (00:14)

Can I get one of the call back? Well, that's the thing. I don't know when my supervisor's coming back. Well, is she at her desk? You don't know because you're working from home and you don't even know where she is. Because she’s working from home too,


 Marcus: (00:28)

 Right? Oh yeah. That’s not a problem.


 John C. Morley: (00:32)

 It's a real zoo Marcus. It is a zoo.

(JMOR tech talk show. Well, we answer questions about technology. Explain the way they should work and why they tone sometimes). 

Well, Hey everybody. It is John C. Morley serial entrepreneur here. And welcome once again to another great episode of the JMOR tech talk show. Marcus, I can't believe this. I say this all the time. We are just on the second week of December. Can you believe that?


 Marcus: (01:08)

 I can't believe it, John. And you know, like the more and more you say that the closer we get to exiting out of 2021.


 John C. Morley: (01:15)

 Yeah. I mean that's the truth. And of course, Marcus, it's always great to have you here and you're great commentary to help our wonderful listeners and viewers make some great connections to what I'm talking about. So good to have you here. And so tonight what I want to talk about, well, there's a lot of things I want to talk about. We have a great show here tonight and incidentally, ladies and gentlemen while you're watching our show, you know if you happen to decide during the show that, Hey, you know, you'd like to reach our audience and you know, connect with us because we reach a very unique audience in the tech field that you may want to get in front of. So you can talk to our team about that If you are interested. You know, we're hearing a lot of Marcus about the Omicron variant and everything's, I think what they're doing mark is I think they're just scaring people.


 Marcus: (02:07)

 Yeah. Because you never know what type of variant you're going to get next. Right? You know, we both from one variant to the other, you know there was Delta now Delta's out the way and Omni's here.


 John C. Morley: (02:20)

 It's nuts. Right? It is. I have to believe though that it's got to be something with a money variant because I didn't go get the third shot. I don't think the third shot's even got to work because now they're just saying that we don't even know if it's got to work. So why are we telling people to go, get a vaccine, a third vaccine when we have no idea whether it's got to do anything for us or it's got to hurt us.


 Marcus: (02:52)

 Yeah. This is weird. You know, it's getting weirder and weirder, you know, pretty soon it's got to be a fourth rolled out vaccine. So I'm waiting on it. I'm waiting on it.


 John C. Morley: (03:02)

 You know, we're waiting on a lot of things and we're talking about a lot of returns aren't we?

Marcus: (03:08)


John C. Morley: (03:08)

 But speaking about returns, you know, everybody keeps saying, you know, they're got to go back to work. Everything's got to be fine. This is got to be done. And everything's got to be okay. But you know, Google was supposed to beyond the return for January, but you know, that may not be the case anymore. They don't believe that January 10th is so viable and they are working right now as we speak to come up with a structured hybrid schedule in the United States that was previously planned. And they sent this out to an email to employees. And again, they're supposedly a tech giant in a lot of different areas, but now for them to reassess their operations and the fact that they're not coming back to work, I got to believe that's setting a stage in a tone for other companies. 


 Marcus: (04:00)

 Yeah. I just got, I'm wondering John, is there any advantages to these companies for allowing their employees to work remotely? You know, what you know. 


 John C. Morley: (04:13)

 You know, you have a great point there Marcus, and what I have to tell you is this. When people work remotely, you got to make sure if you're a boss that you're getting productivity out of them. I mean, I'm not here, to knock people that are working from home because I get that some people can work from home efficiently and, and be very good for the company. But there are a lot of people, Marcus, that just snow job, the company.

Marcus: (04:38)


John C. Morley: (04:39)

They spend more time taking care of their kids cooking their husband, or they're spending other breakfast or dinner and that's taking more of a priority than phone calls or emails.


 Marcus: (04:51)

 It is.


 John C. Morley: (04:53)

 And it's a problem without the company being big brother, how do you set a policy to make sure your staff works? Well, I think one way you do it is you can establish some trust, but then you just have to kind of see what they're doing. Of course, you can install software to see what they're working on during your time. And if somebody is not working, like if they have to go do something which that happens, then they need to clock out and let somebody know they're not available. And if there are too many unavailable minutes, then somebody needs to say something to that person. Because I think what we have to do is get the employee to realize that they have to make sure they clock out so that another team member doesn't expect they're got to be available or worse another client.


 Marcus: (05:38)

 That's a good analysis of that in you, you know, pure to what's happening behind the scenes. I think another question that, you know, the most audience might have is like, you know, do you think we're got to see any new technology roll out the more time prolongs on like getting people out back in the field? You know 


 John C. Morley: (05:59)

 I think we're got to see some more technology that was already implemented things like the, you know, the smart temperature checkers, and we're got to see a lot more remote workforce software, but I also believe we're going to see things like gaining technology to be able to see if somebody's working. Are they really at home or are they at the supermarket? And when I know that sounds like a big brother, but you have to realize something. If a company is not getting its work done, okay. Now I'm believing right now that everybody has good input lawyers, but if you're not getting your work done, they're saying, well, gee, I just can't do it. I don't have the time. Then I think there is a reason to investigate the fact that maybe people's times should be checked a lot more thoroughly. I've had lots of people and you know, they say, I can work from home. Like, okay. And suddenly what I did when I noticed work, wasn't getting done, I stopped giving work to be done at home. And then they said to me, John, well, can't, we do work from home. I said I'll think about it. So then about a month or two went by and I assigned some work to be done home, but this time I actually got the work done and we were ahead of schedule. So I think you have to let the employee know whose boss and let them know that you're willing to work with them, but you're not here to be taken advantage of.


 Marcus: (07:32)

 Yeah, absolutely. I think that's great advice and great insight into what's going on. And these changed in crazy times. 


 John C. Morley: (07:42)

 So Google has already told their employees that they're not required to return to the office as expected on January 10th. That was when they were deciding to send people back to work, but that's not happening. And the security VP says despite 40% of the US Googlers already coming in the company will wait to enforce the three-day office return mandate until its safe return to its stable long-term work environment. But you know, Marcus, it's not got to be stable for a long time. I mean, we still have issues with logistics and products. I'm waiting three or four months for products to come in.


 Marcus: (08:18)

 Yeah. We still have issues is in customer service. You know, trying to get through to somebody 


 John C. Morley: (08:24)

 I know. And you call them and you just get disconnected. You call them back. Like, can you do me a favor? Can you call back a little later? Because I don't know how to use this screen. Like, excuse me. I, I'm not familiar with how to look that up. Can you call back like in about 20 minutes? Okay. Can you transfer me? Well, that's the thing we're upgrading our phone system. So I don't know if I can transfer you


 Marcus: (08:50)




 John C. Morley: (08:52)

 I don't know. It's crazy. And the company is not setting a new return date. They're calling this a smart move. I don't know if I agree and it's all because of the hype and the press around the Omicronvariant and you know, we have a challenge hiring people. Now I don't know about you, my Marcus knowing this where you are, but getting people to come into work is very difficult.


 Marcus: (09:22)

 It is. We're seeing a lot of and employee new employees hiring shortages, you know like


 John C. Morley: (09:30)

 They're getting hired, but you know, what's happening Marcus and I have this philosophy too. I never like to fire. So somebody I make them quit. The way I do that is when somebody's not working out, we write them up three times. But when I want somebody to quit, I cut their hours back to like nothing. And they imagine, you decide, it's not working. I've had some people at home doing some social media stuff. And I'm like, why isn't this done with it? Oh, sorry, John. I got tied up on something else. How long am I got to tolerate that?


 Marcus: (10:03)

 Yeah, you can't tolerate it for long. That's for sure.


 John C. Morley: (10:05)

 But when you can't find anybody to replace them, that's a problem.

Marcus: (10:11)


John C Morey: (10:13)

 So I think this Omicron is just another excuse for people not to go to work. I'm not saying to not be safe, I'm not saying to not wear a mask. And things like that. What I'm saying is we need to get back into life. We need to get away from the virtual world because you and I both know Marcus' business is not happening virtually as much as everybody we know out there talks about it. There's not a lot of business in the virtual world.


 Marcus: (10:39)

 No, it's not


 John C. Morley: (10:41)

 The people I know. And I'm not got to mention names. One company runs a not-for-profit that turned it in, who has a, not for profit. Now they have a for-profit. And now they're trying to pay people money for doing tasks that help to benefit their company.


 Marcus: (11:01)



 John C. Morley: (11:03)

 I just feel that virtual networking and the virtual world it's limited Marcus. I want to talk to people that are local and near me. Not that somebody that's in Oshkosh 


 Marcus: (11:19)

 Yeah. Or in India.


 John C. Morley: (11:20)

 Exactly. Or halfway way across the world. And you know, they don't understand what's going on. I had a person call the other day to me and they kept calling like every month and they were looking for us to do something. I called them back. They didn't leave a message. I called them back. And I said, look, I said, I spent 28 minutes holding for you. Your people call me every single month and ask us to do something for you. Then you waste our time as you prequalify us and you get us on the hook to try to work with you. So you can tell you're people that you've got people, but you don't even have the business yet. So I, I came down to them the other day and I called them back and I said, look, I said, I don't mean to be disrespectful to you. You're wasting our company's time. Okay. We're busy. We don't have time for this. So do us a favor. Call us if you need us sincerely. But if you keep calling us and we find out that there is no viability, we're got to block you.

Oh, okay. We're so sorry about that one. No, I want to speak to a supervisor. Well, supervisors rolling meeting. Of course, they are. They're always in a meeting Marcus. 

Marcus: (12:39)


John C. Morley: (13:39)

 Can I get one call back? Well, that's the thing. I don't know when my supervisor's coming back. Well, is she at her desk? You don't know because you're working from home and you don't even know where she is. Because she's working from home too, Right?


 Marcus: (12:54)

 Oh yeah, it. It’s not a problem.


 John C. Morley: (12:58)

 It’s a real zoo Marcus. It is a zoo and you know, talking about control, right? Whether we're talking about you know, the government or we're talking about businesses or we're talking about people spending more money like over $27,000 is now I understand is the cost in December of 2021 for one of those cargo containers, $27,000 to transport that


 Marcus: (13:29)



 John C. Morley: (13:30)

 That's a lot.


 Marcus: (13:30)

 That's a lot. Yeah. Oh, man.


 John C. Morley: (13:35)

 And you know, what's got to happen to you and they're got to pass it on to people now we're not paying 27,000, but we go buy something. Our, our shipping costs went up. I just went to buy something before, you know what they told me because of the holidays, we're tacking on a $3 surcharge because of, the Fedex ups and freight issues. What kind of nonsense is that?


 Marcus: (13:59)

 Yeah, it is total nonsense and it doesn't make any sense. It doesn't really, you know excuse any of the situations, you know, it’s price gouging,


 John C. Morley: (14:12)

 It's price gouging, and it's a control issue, but speaking about the control issue we all know NVidia very well. You know, for video cards and whatnot well. NVidia recently tried to acquire arm the licensing arm for chips and the federal trade commission has sued to stop the blockbuster chip deal.


 Marcus: (14:36)



 John C. Morley: (14:39)

 I mean, you, you can't make this stuff up.


 Marcus: (14:44)

 No. I think we had them in the news a couple, a couple of months back, you know? DVIA and they were doing some, you know, doing something 


 John C. Morley: (14:56)

 They started it then. And the FPC recently blocked the 40 billion dollar acquisition of the fellow chip company arm. They said that by halting this, it would've been guessing semiconductor industry deal in the history and the regulators pushed against this because that would then be the ones that every else other people would have to deal with for chips and components, etc. So they felt that it was a good idea to block this move 


 Marcus: (15:32)

 But isn't that one of the biggest issues we face in though in this country, like, you know, chip reduction 


 John C. Morley: (15:41)

 Yeah, exactly. And I want to quote something from the FTC is, issuing the block, the largest semiconductor chip merger in history to prevent a chip conglomerate from Stifling the innovation pipeline for next-generation technologies. So what they're afraid of okay, is that if they get so big and they're able to overpower what's here and now they have a problem with their chip production, it's got to cripple the world. They say the reason they're doing this is they're trying to keep America competitive baloney.


 Marcus: (16:18)

 Yeah. But you know, they talking off the side of their next job because we don't see any investment into that.


 John C. Morley: (16:24)

 I know. 

Marcus: (16:28)

 You know.

John C. Morley: (16:28)

So NVidia, says they're committed to preserving arms, an open licensing model that's is what they are, and ensuring that its IP is available to all interested licensees in current and the future and the FTC isn't the first government regulator to scrutinize the deal. I don't know if I believe that or not. The European Union said they were announcing an issue similar in the UK, but who is making these decisions.


 Marcus: (16:58)

 Sounds like, 

John C. Morley: (16:59)

And why 

Marcus: (17:01)

It sounds like people who want their hands in the pot but can't get that.


 John C. Morley: (17:03)

  That's what it sounds like to me, somebody just wants to get their hand a cookie jar. Yeah. And the thing about the arm that most people don't know, arms architecture is low powered and it's available to so many different companies the chips have taken over the industry. So what they're afraid of, in fact, the last year companies sold 25, not million guys, billion in arm chips, more than fourfold increase since 2010. So what would happen if NVidia bought an arm? That's the single most company that makes these, this licensing technology for things like you know, we've seen things like the snapdragon and the arm-specific version of windows. This is what they're doing. I mean, they would have a handle on the market. They'd also be able to control the car industry, Nintendo.

Marcus: (17:59)


John C. Morley: (18:00)

 Even the Tesla infotainment systems. I don't know. I just feel like this is a shady deal. I think it should have been allowed. I think NVidia has been a solid company and I don't think it actually would've hurt it, hurt everyone.


 Marcus: (18:23)

 No. And it, it seemed like they were being pretty reasonable, you know, especially when they offered to share licenses.


 John C. Morley: (18:31)

 Yeah. So NVidia is actually out to Santa Clara, California. So are they trying to say that they don't want us to produce chips in the United States? Because that's what it sounds like to me. That's


 Marcus: (18:44)

 What it, that's what it sounds like. That's what it feels like, John, you know, and sounds like this move came from, you know people who got special interest somewhere else.


 John C. Morley: (18:56)

 Well, you know, what else is a problem? You see the reason that people are so concerned. I know if you know this, but on roughly October 27th, 2021 NVidia surpassed Intel, that's right. NVidia surpassed Intel as the largest semiconductor company in a market cap.


 Marcus: (19:15)



 John C. Morley: (19:16)

 So we're got to break down Intel versus Nvidia stock. I mean, come on, Nvidia seems to have better engineering and they seem to sell more products. I mean, that's inevitable.


 Marcus: (19:33)

 It is, you know and it is quite a hypocrisy though, at his very best, you know? And I don't see, you know, what the issue is here. And we do see what the issue is, but I don't see what the issue is. Do you know?


 John C. Morley: (19:49)

 This, the issue is somebody's not getting paid enough money. That's what the issue is. 


 Marcus: (19:54)

 Yeah. Yeah. That's the obvious one.


 John C. Morley: (19:57)

 so we'll just have to kind of keep an eye on that and see what happens. But I believe that if those situations don't happen where they don't have the merger that they want, believe that Nevis chip prices and, and components are got to go up next year.


 Marcus: (20:14)

 They're already expensive John, how much more do they need to go up?


 John C. Morley: (20:17)

 I know. I know. And they can't and you can't even get them.


 Marcus: (20:22)



 John C. Morley: (20:25)

 So let's just say they raise their prices by 20%. But I would say to somebody, you could raise your price as much as you want, but if you don't have stock, then you're not even in the game.

 I think that if they let the merger go through, they should have set up a discipline whereby if they allowed it to happen, that they needed to force to have this much stock available for the, for the market value that was being used. So if they had, a cap of a million sales, let's just say, hypothetically, they need to always have that 90% percent of, of market available immediately. And they have to plan on when they're got to be able to return the other 10% to the market.

Marcus: (21:15)

 That's smart.

John C. Morley: (21:17)

 Yeah. But they don't do things smartly. We know that.

Marcus: (21:21)


John C. Morley: (21:22)

But you know, we're talking a lot about government today, as you know, and another government's kind of getting under my belt here is the new United Kingdom government internet of things. Security plans fit the needs that the people need and want.

 That's another one. So we know the internet of things and devices. We've talked about this before, all kinds, small devices you wear from fitness trackers to smart light bulbs, to things that are connected to the internet like Alexa, Google voice, remote devices, things like that. But cyber security, as you know, and I know, and I've said this, I'm sure you've heard me say this at least like a broken record, it's becoming an ongoing challenge and it's getting worse. Did you know that there were 1.5 billion breaches of internet of technology devices during the first six months of 2021 alone?

Marcus: (22:26)

 I believe it.

John C. Morley: (22:26)

 And this is according to a well-known security company, Kaspersky and that almost doubled from 639 million for all of 2021. This is the largest type of security breach that has happened. And it's been a long time for manufacturers typically of inexpensive devices because now they're continuing to ship with guessable type firmware and or default password and insecure third-party components. I have to hand it to now year. So you probably know the history that net year originally was owned. There, there was another company and then they got purchased and then the other per company got purchased. And then it's back to the net year, well net year and Bayern and networks because Bayern networks are kind of like the more the enterprise line. And so even though they're different, like little kind of different parts of the company, they're the same company. Nick year ships their routers with a predefined username and predefined, I should say the password and a predefined SSID, and it's printed on the router’s sticker. You could change it, but ever every single one of them is different. They're the only ones that do that.

 Because they know most people are just got to take it out a box and plug it in, oh, by the way, Joe's network or the password. So this referendum is got to outline three major areas of the minimum security standards. The first is a ban of universal default passwords, such as password or admin. I think that's ridiculous. Okay. 

Marcus: (24:08)


John C. Morley: (24:09)

Those were, that is present in the devices, factory settings and are easily guessable. So Nick gear's already ahead of the curve on this. So kudos to them. The second's got to require manufacturers to provide a public point of contact to make it simpler for anyone to report a security vulnerability. Right now it's like trying to get through to another country that doesn't speak your language. And the third is that the IoT manufacturer will also have to keep customers update about the minimum amount of time, a product or receive vital security updates. So that means if you buy a product, most products, you buy have security updates for life, but some of the cheaper products and the fine print tell you, they're got to give security product updates forever. But then what they forget to tell you is forever, as long as windows seven or Windows 10 is still supported. So you got to watch that word forever.

Marcus: (25:05)


John C. Morley: (25:08)

Or they say lifetime Marcus, but a lifetime is the lifetime of something else. Not your lifetime.


 Marcus: (25:16)

 Yeah. That's weird.


 John C. Morley: (25:18)

 But they do it all the time. You know, when you hear car commercials or other commercials on TV, they do this all the time.


 Marcus: (25:27)

 They do


 John C. Morley: (25:28)

 So stop the fall. Passwords are the one thing I've told people to use two-factor authentication. I know so many times I think this is a great thing. I've said this before Marcus, we need a standard, a standard that is going to be a consortium that sets it for the world. Not just UK, not the just USA and make sure, because I've told you before the IoT devices are a complete disaster. When they come out of the box, they have no security what security. So again that's one thing I like about the NetGear devices. There are other companies that when you set up their device, force you to change the password before you can continue. I think that's a great idea.

Marcus: (26:15)

 It is

John C. Morley: (26:16)

 But I don't think a should just work out the box, you plug it in, and then it's just ready.


 Marcus: (26:22)

 No, it shouldn't, you know that is like a big no-no and I'm not sure why you, after also many years, haven't caught onto that yet.


 John C. Morley: (26:34)

 It's an issue with the cost of that's what it comes down to cost money time. That's why they don't do it. It's not that they can't.


 Marcus: (26:46)

 That makes a lot of sense.


 John C. Morley: (26:49)

 So if you remember, not too long ago, I talked about the 5g problem that was happening. Right? And how that if the 5g network was fully enabled to its original engineered capability, it could cause some interference to the, out to limiters. And for those of you who don't remember, the out to limiters are very vital pieces of equipment. It's a meter on an airplane that says, it tells you what the altitude the plane is flying at. I think that's a pretty important device to have accurate information displayed on


 Marcus: (27:23)

 It is.


 John C. Morley: (27:26)

 So you'll be happy to know that at and T and Verizon have agreed to limit their levels of the 5g to that we're going to break the regular. So the right to break the regulatory input, it's like, they've agreed. I mean, it's not like they had a choice, Marcus.

Marcus: (27:47)


 What are you got to do? Like just truck along anyways and put people at risk of Diet.


 John C. Morley: (27:53)

 It's like they're, they're giving them such accolades that they've agreed. They've agreed because, the federal government here with the federal aviation was got to go after them and Sue them the federal, you know, the FAA.


 Marcus: (28:13)

 Yeah. There's this is not credible at all. You know this, this so-called like surrender to do what's right. 


 John C. Morley: (28:21) 

 I mean the federal aviation administration, I think if they didn't do it, would've gone after them. Yeah. And this is what it says. And I quote-unquote, we have voluntarily agreed to certain precautionary protection for the 5g network in the C band while additional evidence from the radio out to the manufacturers is evaluated. Oh, thanks. That was what one company said Verizon now 18T said in the statement said a statement though, there is no credible evidence that legitimate interference problem exists. We agree to take these additional steps to alleviate any safety concerns from the FAA. Gee, thanks so much. I mean, a plane crashes because they can't get the proper altitude. That's a problem


 Marcus: (29:11)

 That is


 John C. Morley: (29:12)

 But they said they're both got to do what they have to, even though they don't believe it has any bearing on the safety of anyone traveling they're willing to listen to this while it's being researched. 

Marcus: (29:25)


John C. Morley: (29:26)

 So what is that saying? That they're got to change their mind after a while. 


 Marcus: (29:33)

 That's what it sounds like.


 John C. Morley: (29:35)

 It's a problem. You know, and the fact that when the cell phone signals were devised because we know Verizon and ATT Devi and they were designed by third party companies. They're the ones that really should be on the line here.


 Marcus: (29:53)

 Yeah. They, they should in it, it, it appears that like they're just trying to take a, a clean break away from any, any like major responsibility other than like, okay. You know, be a volunteer to get away from this and you know, we got to do what's right. So we deserve a pat on the bat for doing that.


 John C. Morley: (30:14)

 So then they make a statement here. The FAA believes that the aviation and the 5g C band wireless service can safely coexist. Yeah. It can safely coexist, but you forgot to tell us that it's within certain ranges. So the C band is, is, is a problem, the C band, but they've got to have to maybe tweak the C band down and why do we need to push the C-band? Why aren't we just happy with what we have? I mean, are they got to make airplane manufacturers? Re-Engineer the out to limiters?


 Marcus: (30:48)

 Yeah. That's not happening. Not no time soon.


 John C. Morley: (30:53)

 No. You know how behind they are on planes and stuff. But speaking about people I don't know if many of you know, ladies and gentlemen online, his name is Ludwig green and Ludwig has a live stream. And it was interrupted by a copyright warning days after just joining YouTube. He was mostly known for Twitter, but YouTube as you know tends to be very sticky. And you know, you can't just say what you want to say or play people's music. That's not licensed. I can't tell you how many times we upload a video. Even though it's licensed, we get a warning telling us that there's been a copyright claim because they're automated. We send a request in and, and they magically dismiss the claim, but people that are doing this and don't know they are breaking the law as a problem. Now he thought that he was suspended. He wasn't suspended when he played the catchy baby shark song. 

Marcus: (32:02)


John C. Morley: (32:02)

He was given a violation strike. They allow three strikes and then you're out.


 Marcus: (32:09)



 John C. Morley: (32:09)

 So he was playing another YouTube video during his dream when he landed on the infamous catchy baby shark song. So he's saying he shouldn't be responsible, but Marcus, I have to tell you, we never play anything on the show unless we know what it is that for them to just go play a YouTube channel. You don't know what you're got to get in that channel.


 Marcus: (32:34)

 No, you're no, you don't. So that's why you got to be extremely careful when you play around with YouTube or even for that matter Facebook matter these, these guys are notorious for making sure they stay true to DMCA in complying with them. We just had a copyright strike that that was released months after it was given. So, yeah, this is real.


 John C. Morley: (33:06)

 Now it's very real and this is why all the music we put is all licensed and, you know, people think they can just take our stuff, just do whatever they want with it. It's a violation of copyright. And YouTube has a Content ID tool pickup system. And it tries to do a good job to see if you're playing unlicensed videos. And so when he went to this other place you know, this other place online, and it was when he went live to fans, he was playing a video, but he wasn't sure what was in the video. If he would've just stopped playing the copied material immediately, he would've been able to continue streaming. So I guess what this comes down to because there is, you know, kind of you know, kind of hold harmless if we're broadcasting.

 And we did go to a YouTube channel, not that I would do that. And we saw that they were doing something let's say that was unethical. Or they were playing something that we thought was illegal or they were doing something that might be profanity or X-rated content. And we saw it and we quickly ended it. We would not be penalized for that because as soon as we picked it up, we immediately reacted and stopped it. The problem that happened is that he continued to broadcast it while it was going on. So I guess this comes down to an issue. If you're got to be a streamer, you're going to be a media influencer. You got to know your stuff. You got to know if what you're talking about can be aired online or if maybe you need to get permission.


 Marcus: (34:52)

 Yeah. Those are the two most important things that you just pointed out there. And I think a lot of content creators do not take that into account when they first start, they don't, they don't research all the rules and they think, you know, they can just go big with this thing and that'd be it. So I think that's a mistake on his part.


 John C. Morley: (35:14)

 So there was a company, it was again, the people that owned baby shark they went after, I don't know a lot about this company, but I mean, it's their right. If they're playing something and you know, there's a law with how many seconds you're allowed to play before even video, before was considered you know, to be a violation. Now he didn't get, a violation. He got a warning. So a warning is not a band, but it's still not a good thing. It's a copyright strike. If you want to think about three strikes and you're out.

Marcus: (35:49)


John C. Morley: (35:49)

Can you get strikes revoked? You can, but takes a lot of work and you have to prove that you made the intent to not have that strike. And the fact you don't know something well, I got news for you, Ignorance is bliss.


 Marcus: (36:04)

 Yeah. And judging by the article, you know, he does not want those strikes because looks like he does get a pretty good size audience and, you know, and just to be demonetized would be, you know, not pretty good for him.


 John C. Morley: (36:21)

 And they're saying you know, as he's getting acquainted with this new streaming hub, that his mistakes are likely to go unnoticed. I don't know. I just feel Marcus, it doesn't matter how big or how small you are, if you do something wrong you're got to get in trouble for it.


 Marcus: (36:43)



 John C. Morley: (36:47)

 And so hopefully they learned and he learned a lesson that, you know, you can't do that kind of stuff, but YouTube did, does not play around. So if you try to upload music on YouTube or a video, and you're not sure who the owner is, and you don't have permission, I can almost guarantee you there's got to be copyright. What they call a copyright claim placed against you. Now we've had them before, but we did nothing wrong. So we just answered the copyright claim and say, Hey, we are legitimate. We're licensed. And they check it out. Another third party gets involved and usually, within a day or two it's resolved, but if that's not resolved within 30 days, that can be a formal strike against you and three strikes and you're done.


 Marcus: (37:32)



 John C. Morley: (37:32)

 So yeah, you got to be careful, not only the content that you are producing but as a listener okay. You don't want to be associated with people that are breaking the laws. That's got to come back to hurt you as a listener.


 Marcus: (37:54)

 Yeah. That's very true.


 John C. Morley: (37:56)

 You know that is very true. I mean, you go to share something out, you think you're helping them, and now you're suddenly in trouble because you shared their information. So again, just a word of warning. If you're broadcasting, I don't care whether it's on LinkedIn, whether it's YouTube, whether it's Twitch, whether it's Facebook, I don't care where it is. Make sure you know what you're broadcasting, and if there's something behind you and that's copyrighted, you better not show that on your screen. I love so you got that, right. They go download these little clips, which are fine for their house or something, but they're not meant to be broadcasted out.


 Marcus: (38:41)

 Yeah. That, that's something else to think about. John, you know, you alluded to something, it is just as small as that, you know, like showing something in the background, in your house that, you know, belongs to somebody else to work with somebody else. And, and something that small that can


 John C. Morley: (38:56)

 Get, you nailed exactly what we do in my marketing production company. When we do graphic designs, we had done, I'm not got to mention the name, of the beverage company, but it's a large beverage company. And it was a soda and we were doing a social flyer event. And I said, wait a minute you can't put that out with it. Why not? We don't have their permission. You need to gray that can out or red, their black that can out or put color on that can or something, or make up a name for the soda, but you cannot put their name on that. Can I don't care if you gray it off it, take it outta the picture. I don't care what you do, but you cannot that image on our flyer, even something as similar as a flyer that I pass around town. 

Marcus: (39:39)


John C. Morley: (39:39)

 It does mostly got to burn you on social media. That's where it does get to happen. But Hey, if somebody sees your flyer in town and they're suddenly attached to that company, Hey, you know what X, Y, Z did, they're using such and such. Do they have our permission to use our logo in their advertising? No. Gee, well, let me give them a call.


 Marcus: (40:03) 


John C. Morley: (40:03)

 And the first thing you'll probably get is a slap on the wrist, but after that, I would do it. And, and I'm hoping that you know whoever does this realizes that you cannot play with fire. I always say you can't play with firewater, but you can use them as a tool. You also can't play around with the internet.

Marcus: (40:25)


John C. Morley: (40:25)

You have to use it as a tool. Well, you know our friends at, what is it these days, Meta, Facebook, who knows what it's got to be called tomorrow. They are coming out with a new feature called split payments in their messenger system. So now you're got to be able to pay for something and split the payment. I don't know. I'm not sure how important that is. The feature's got to be able to help people. Maybe if they're at a restaurant, they want to divvy up the bill. I guess I could pay one way you could pay. So now you can have not just a person, but it can split messenger between two people to pay or multiple people. I guess I could see that. I'm not a proponent though, of paying things through Facebook messenger.


 Marcus: (41:23)

 Yeah. They already have enough data as it is. And you know, this is just another sneaky way just as get to get in.


 John C. Morley: (41:31)

 I got to tell you, I, I was against for many years PayPal, but then when I saw how rigorous they are I mean, they're a bank. They try to do everything to the nine. And they're very; I'm very surprised at how rep able PayPal has been. They keep your information secure. It's not PayPal, that's unscrupulous. It's the people that try to exploit and say, Hey, hi John, hi, Mike, just reaching out to you. We just saw a $3,000 charge for a brand new set of golf clubs. I wasn't, I didn't think you purchased these. And I wanted to make sure we could address it before it hit your credit click here bam. Suddenly a problem.


 Marcus: (42:15)



 John C. Morley: (42:17)

 Well, we are just at the top of our hour with another great show, almost coming to a close here. And listen, if you have an idea for a show you can reach out to us, a  click on the reach out us button at the top right. And a click applies to become a guest or let us know what idea you'd like to have in a show. Or if you'd like us to do it unboxing, let us know about that. But I want to let you guys know about something new that I just launched this week, December. Last week was December 1st. And we started something called the 25 of days of inspiration gifts around the holidays. So every night starting on the first, I was unwrapping gifts to the 25th and their little gag gifts. But they're gifts that teach you how to do something in life when you apply them.

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Marcus: (43:34)

 Yeah, we do.

John C. Morley: (43:35)

  Well, it has been a great Friday evening with you guys and we'll be back on the 17th. That's one week before Christmas Eve, for those of you who are celebrating Christmas Eve. And I know those that are celebrating Hanukkah right now, happy Hanukkah to them, but I just can't believe we are got to be just one week out from Christmas Eve. That just that blows my mind


 Marcus: (44:00)

 Yeah, kids will be out of school and for winter break and here we are New York to be here.


 John C. Morley: (44:08)

 Well, ladies and gentlemen enjoy the rest of your weekend. And I hope that you have found tonight's show insightful and remember to go back, watch our shows, listen to them. And you know, take note because we give a lot of useful information about things that you need to know to stay safe and stay educated in our evolving world of technology. I'm John C. Morley serial entrepreneur, and I will see you back next Friday, December 17th, have a great weekend everyone.

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