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Radio show date 07-09-2021

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John C. Morley 

Hello, everyone. It's that time for the JMOR Tech talk show where we answer questions about technology explained the way they should work, and why they toned sometimes. And now here's your host, John C. Morley. Well, Hey, everybody, and welcome once again to the JMOR Tech talk show. It is great to be here. Marcus, it's great to have you. How are you doing this Friday evening?

 

Marcus Hart 

I'm doing good. John, it's very good to see you once again on another Friday

 

John C. Morley 

Yeah, it is great. I can't believe it's Friday. I don't even know where the month of June went, do you?

 

Marcus Hart 

Oh, it just flew by. And here we are in July.

 

John C. Morley 

We're in July. And pretty soon, we're going to be talking about August. 

 

Marcus Hart 

Absolutely. 

 

John C. Morley 

But you know, we have a great guest tonight, we have Catherine Leonard, who I think you're really going to enjoy a little bit later in the program. She's the author of Catherine's Divine Riches Project And she helps people empower their lives very quickly. She's had experience in the mental emotional health areas with crisis. And she talks about different types of empathy. And she's pretty amazing person, if you look at some of our content, so we're going to get a chance to chat with her a little bit later. And she also has a gift that she'll be providing us that will be on our website when we actually transcribe this to help you feel a little better about yourself. So lots of great stuff coming up. But let's get right into the show. So Jeff Bezos, right, our good old friend, Mr. Jeff, he has something called the two pizza rule. Have you ever heard that before, Marcus?

 

Marcus Hart 

This is my first time ever hearing of a two pizza rule. What the heck is that, John?

 

John C. Morley 

Well, it's a simple rule. And it was actually, I'm going to say drive by Mr. Jeff Bezos, as you remember the former CEO of Amazon. And his whole goal is to maximize meeting effectiveness. So the concept revolves around the premise that a meeting should not need more than two pizzas to feed everyone. 

 

Marcus Hart 

Oh, wow. Wow. 

 

John C. Morley 

So it's kind of a quick and dirty method for ensuring that you don't have a big group. And no one really gets drowned out. So if you just have two pizzas, there's not a lot of slices in a pie, aren't there? 

 

Marcus Hart 

No, that's not at all. So yeah. 

 

John C. Morley 

So if there's what about eight slices? And I guess he's probably saying that you can't have more than eight people in a room if people are going to have two slices each, right? Well, it doesn't want to be more than eight people.

 

Marcus Hart 

It makes total sense. I can see where you can get a lot more done with just a few people.

 

John C. Morley 

So, yeah, that's the two-pizza rule. So if you're having problems in your business, or if you're having problems in your family, maybe it's time to implement the two pizza rule. Maybe get rid of some of your, I don't know, extended family that shouldn't be there, or those friends that you just can't seem to get rid of. They show up, and they're like park. You ever had to go to like that Marcus? They're like park at your counter. Like, what's he doing here? Oh, he just stopped by because we're having pot roast. Oh, okay. Oh, I'm going to get ready. I'll be down a few minutes. Yeah. Oh, listen, I have this like, oh, anything else? Oh, why don't you check with him? What do you think we should do? Oh, I don't care. Well, what do we have? And then they suddenly make dessert based on what he wants. Don't ask me. I mean, doesn't matter at all. But so that's the two pizza rule. And if you want more effective meetings, thanks to Mr. Jeff Bezos, just go ahead and get yourself two pizzas. You could even go to your local stop and shop or your food town or your PJs and go pick up two Giordano's or whatever or whatever pies they have, and get two pies, but I don't that applies if you're going to get Ellio'sPizza because they come in slices. --what, 16 in the oven. But you can get some pies that have 10 and what if you cut the slices smaller? Does that mean that I can actually invite two more people?

 

Marcus Hart 

You know what, you got something going on there, John and I haven't even seen pizza cut in squares and then you got a little bit more eight--

 

John C. Morley 

Yeah, so that that's going to be something very interesting. But Mark is something really interesting happened in the news, actually a while ago. Evernote, I'm not sure if you heard of them. They quietly disappeared from the anti-surveillance lobbying groups website. Yeah, this is very interesting. It was back around 2013. Many of you may or may not be familiar with this. There are eight tech companies. And they were accused of, let's say, just taking money and put it in their own pocket for their users data to the US National Security Agency under what they call the prism program. It was a very highly, quote unquote, classified government document program. And it got leaked by the NSA by a whistleblower. You probably know the guy's name. Oh, yeah. Mr. Snowden. Mr. Snowden. And six months later, these tech companies formed, I guess, a group, you will say, under the name reform government surveillance, which as the name would suggest, was to lobby with lawmakers to reform government surveillance laws. It seemed pretty simple to pitch your idea to lawmakers and to limit surveillance may seem like a really open and shut case, no pun intended there. But apple, Facebook, Google, LinkedIn, Microsoft, Twitter, Yahoo. And AOL, as you know, later became a Verizon media, which owns quite a bit of Tech Crunch for now. And they were the founding members of the reformed government's surveillance or what they like to call RGS. They all like to use acronyms. I don't know. Do they think they're hiding something or do they just sound more cool? I don't get it. And over the years, they added Amazon, Dropbox, Evernote, snap. And now guess who else Marcus, Zoom? 

 

Marcus Hart 

It seems like the bigger you get, you become part of the fan club, it looks like.

 

John C. Morley 

Yeah, you become part of the community

 

Marcus Hart 

Yeah, the boy club.

 

John C. Morley 

The boy club. 

 

Marcus Hart 

There we go. 

 

John C. Morley 

But then around 2019, like we didn't have enough to deal with the pandemic, Evernote quietly disappeared from RGS website without any warning. But strangely enough, nobody noticed it for two years, not even Evernote. So that means that it wasn't Evernote's idea to leave the website. And I want to make a quote, We hadn't realized our logo had to remove from the reform government surveillance website, close quote, said an Evernote spokesperson, when they reached for comment by TechCrunch, who by the way, quote, unquote, we are still members. So is that a, let's say a polite way of just nudging them and saying, oh, you're out?

 

Marcus Hart 

It seems that way. It seems that like maybe the peanut gallery of that club just said, you know what, these guys are not very active anymore. And there's no need to really have that part of us. Maybe there's something we disagree on. 

 

John C. Morley 

I don't think it was the activeness, I think it was the fact that they were against some of the principal ideas. And you know how it is like in a fraternity, if you block the system, well, you're out.

 

Marcus Hart 

Easily. 

 

John C. Morley 

And they can find a way to replace you in moments. In a fraction of a second, you can be removed. And it was just interesting. I mean, they had to know that they were removed from the website. I don't buy that. I think what happened was there was a falling out. And then they said they're being removed. And it's just so convenient that the political spokesperson for their company didn't know they were removed from the website. I don't by that, I mean, Who do they think they're fooling, Marcus, when they come up with these things?

 

Marcus Hart 

We know that a lot of stuff gets handled over dinners and over coffee and drinks. And it's really hard to believe that this just happened by some mistake. It's really bullcrap like you said, John.

 

John C. Morley 

It didn't happen by mistake, this was something and I don't want to point fingers. It could be Facebook, could be Yahoo, could be zoom could be anybody. There could be something that maybe they didn't align on or the fact that if they may be pushed their point, it was going to cost that company money. And maybe it was something to do with privacy and they didn't want that law to be enacted, because that might take away immense revenue from them either now or in the future. Marcus, it's always about money. And even though it comes down to power, it ultimately comes back to money, ego and money. Those are the two things that I think can drive almost anybody apart.

 

Marcus Hart 

Very easily, very easily. And with the household name that we see on this list here, it's very easy to see how egos can really collide without a drop of the time so.

 

John C. Morley 

And if you don't agree Well, there's always another person for your seat.

 

Marcus Hart 

Literally.

 

John C. Morley 

So our next guest is pretty amazing, her name is Catherine Leonard, and She's the author and founder of Catherine's Divine Riches Project: Life Empowerment Fast Tracks for Life Change. And she is going to share some insights with us and give us a few tips on what she discovered for herself and overcoming a devastating life. Because she had a lot of challenges I understand from looking at some of her information, and hopefully how these challenges that she's had the opportunity to be part of to share with us so that many of us won't fall into the same traps and hopefully they can help us. We'll learn about some of the shocking statistics. We'll learn a little bit of empathy and some critical things that I think we need to know about ourselves. Please help me welcome ladies and gentlemen, tonight to the JMOR Tech Talk show, Miss. Catherine Leonard.

 

John C. Morley 

Well, welcome, Catherine, it is a pleasure to have you here on the JMOR Tech talk show this evening. 

 

Catherine Leonard 

Thank you, John, I'm so happy to be here with you. 

 

John C. Morley 

We're going to learn a lot of great things. With the pandemic, I don't want to say behind us. But definitely, let's say, a little bit further behind than it was before. I think the most important thing is that people are trying to get some sort of solvency, that's what they're trying to get right now. And the problem is, people are just looking for hope, aren't they? They just want some type of hope to be able to get a little bit better, I think, than where they were before. And I guess when we talk about this, this is having a pretty big effect, isn't it, on the global and mental emotional crisis in the world? What can you tell us about that, Catherine, how that's affecting us maybe with some numbers or some statistics? How is this actually affecting our world?

 

Catherine Leonard 

Yes, John. Well, absolutely. I found some really interesting statistics. In November 2019, the American Heart Association CEO Roundtable, commissioned to study and it was called mental health or workforce crisis. And they found that one in five workers are dealing with some kind of mental or emotional health challenge. The World Health Organization went on to say that stress is the pandemic of the 21st century on a global basis. And it was said to cost US businesses 3 billion dollars a year. And the thing is, those stats were from before the pandemic. So did you have a [inaudible 13:17] here?

 

John C. Morley 

Yeah, I'm just blown away with those numbers, Catherine. I mean, they're astronomical.

 

Catherine Leonard 

Oh, but wait, John, because a year later, in November 2020, a study came out by two Harvard economists, one actually was a former US Treasury Secretary, and he said that the pandemic could cost the US alone, watch this, $16 trillion conservatively if it ends by this fall, and 1.6 trillion were attributed to the effects of mental and emotional health and well-being and people that have been affected by this. It's affecting 40% of people in US studies, that's four out of 10 people.

 

John C. Morley 

That's just shattering. I don't think people realize the gravity of the situation, and even the effects of COVID-19. Not from the beginning but the long term effects, the financial effects. I was talking with general before about how the housing market is changing. And this is all because of what the government has done with the economy and how they're not properly planning, but it's definitely a magnet of stress for a lot of people. And so my question is, obviously, people are being challenged with this. And when we talk about empathy, what are some of the types of empathy related to this crisis that might be interesting to our viewers?

 

Catherine Leonard 

Sure, self-care is something really important in light of the effects of this on everybody. And the thing is, is nobody really knows what the ripple effect is going to be from the pandemic as we go forward not only economically, but again, from the mental and emotional health and well-being standpoint, because we've had not only the pandemic, but Black Lives Matter, the Capitol, siege, politics, COVID, and the wars that are going on in the world. So we're all being bombarded with this in the media, day after day, this trauma. And the thing is something that can help people with this is to understand and be able to apply the different types of empathy. First of all, empathy is briefly defined as being able to relate to something that someone is going through. So again, we're seeing the media images, a lot of us can relate to a lot of the people what our people are going through. So, it's a point of self-care, if you can remember, there are two kinds of empathy, there is emotional empathy, when you actually are feeling the pain that someone is going through. And then there's compassionate empathy, whereas you can relate and maybe understand to what someone is going through, but you don't go down the spiral with them. And it's from that space that you can offer help in some way, if you choose to do so. So it's a much, much healthier way to operate from.

 

John C. Morley 

Do most people, Catherine understand these, I'm going to call them sub economies or they pretty much like pie in the sky, if you were to ask just random people on the street about this.

 

Catherine Leonard 

I think it is a distinction that most people are not aware of. And that's why I wanted to bring it to their attention, to help them because it's important for your own happiness and well-being to understand in practice the difference because it doesn't help you, it doesn't help that other person to actually feel that pain. And most people really don't want you to, what they're looking for is your understanding, and perhaps your help.

 

John C. Morley 

So what we're talking about is, I guess, by embracing yourself to make yourself a little more centered, and so that you can focus on kind of going within, when there's so much noise and chaos outside, I know that can become a little bit challenging to just shut the mind down and try to go within. I know I've loved to meditate for many, many years, and also having a degree in clinical hypnosis. It's amazing what the mind does. But some people I think, are a little scared of the mind, aren't they?

 

Catherine Lenard 

The great unknown territory. Absolutely. I think the best thing, maybe not is to understand the mind, but to be able to manage your feelings and emotions. And does that make sense?

 

John C. Morley 

It does. When I graduated college, I went back several years to get my second degree. And what I found out is I learned all the coding and the nomenclature in the language to program computers and technology. But I didn't know the language of the brain, which is what I studied neuro linguistic programming, and then got clinical hypnosis and what I realized is it's just a language. And so when you understand the language or the modality and the color of the brain, it's actually not that complicated. But a lot of people don't want to harness that.

 

Catherine Lenard 

I'll agree with that. And I think something important to understand also is the effect of negative emotions, what that has on us and our ability to cope with our day to day situations. It's important to understand how you're feeling and how you're able to be present for yourself and others. So when you have these negative emotions, and that starts with that big bad F word, which is fear, which we've all seen a lot of over the past year or so. It affects your goals, your intentions, the things, the happy things that you want in your life. And so that's why it's important to keep yourself centered. And an example of what I like to give is that if you think about something that you need or want in your life that will bring you happiness, whether it's a relationship or money or health and it's on its way, it's on its way to you, it's coming down the street, it's coming to your door, like an Amazon truck. And you throw those orange cones into the road and detour signs. That's what it's like when you have negative emotions. And so they just delay the good that's on its way to you coming to you. So if you can get yourself centered, remain centered. As much as possible, it keeps you in that more positive space in order to bring those things to yourself.

 

John C. Morley 

I love that analogy. And one thing a lot of people may not know is a reticular activating system, and that it was actually designed so that we could actually be able to stay alive and hunt. And so when we use it, whether we choose to use it or not, it's still activated. And I always say to people, what's your favorite color? And they give me a color and I tell them, that's great. And they're there a lot of cars with that color, like, yeah, there are, why drive a white car. All there aren't that many white cars. But I think there are a lot of white cars. So there's actually the same amount of white cars as there are their color. It's just that what you're focusing on. So I think we become centered is a really good way of understanding how our reticular activating system, I like to call on our sensor, is giving us a perspective of the world, and all these different possibilities that we can tie into. But if we're not open to these possibilities, they just sort of go past us like a little bumps in the road.

 

Catherine Lenard 

Exactly. I have a personal experience, I'd like to share on that, John. In my most recent visit to my mom, she says pinwheels at the dollar store, okay, so they make her happy, they're uplifting for her. She's an older woman. So keep that into consideration. So anyway, so it's like I helped her pick up a few of these pinwheels. And she's like, Catherine, do you want one of those? I'm like, No, I don't think so my But later, it was like, Yeah, I picked one up. So I thought, well, I'll think of you Mom, when I'm in my own space, and that'll make me happy and whatever. So the funniest thing is, is I walk a lot. And when I've been out walking, I have noticed pinwheels everywhere that I never saw before in the same routes that I'm walking. So that's my example with regard to what you focus on expands and even in a minor way like that.

 

John C. Morley 

I love that. And a lot of people today, we say the meditate, and they think it's some like, voodoo magic, it's not, it's bringing yourself in, it's getting yourself centered. And it's really developing, I like to call the muscle of a reticular activating system. And so that it's able to attract good because it'll attract whatever you want. It's just what you focus on. And what I like to tell people to do, Catherine, is to reward the behavior you like. So if you like the fact that you're able to cook well or you're able to bring money in or you're able to help people, reward that behavior and you're going to get more of that behavior. So that's one thing I like to say. Now, I have a question for you. And that is, how do you take your temperature, Catherine, to see if you really are centered?

 

Catherine Lenard 

Thank you for that question, John. I will use a personal experience. Okay. Right before this interview, I couldn't find something that I was looking for. And time was ticking. And it was like, oh, my gosh, and I thought-- I started to think to myself, oh, you're going to do this interview with John. And here you are, and you're starting to get frazzled, because you can't find something that you need. And I chuckled to myself, because I thought, well, one of the major tools that we all have but you have to remember to use it when you need it is, the number one tip that I'll give people is to oxygen up. And what does that mean? That's the deep breathing, we've all heard this a million times before. But to remember to use the body's natural calming system through those deep breaths, is something you have to remember. So I stopped, took a few deep breaths, and then I could think more clearly about where it was that I put that piece of paper, I was able to find it, send it myself and get back. So it's very easy for me to take my temperature. It's like when I'm not feeling focused in present, that's when I know that I'm not.

 

John C. Morley 

I like that. And I think more people need to be used to work conscientious of what thoughts they're putting in their head, and what they're focusing on. I think it's just as important to focus on our thoughts as we focus on the type of food we want to eat or the water or the beverages.

 

Catherine Lenard 

Absolutely. And when we think of something like frustration or fear or anxiety or stress, just take a minute to feel that and then if you switch that and think of calm, being fully supported, knowing that everything is working out for you, and that you're good is coming to you. And just feel that difference in telling yourself, hey, I'm strong, I'm positive, I'm confident that I'm happy and then free the difference in that, but it takes being centered in order to become aware of those thoughts so that you can make the choice.

 

John C. Morley 

I like that. I have to ask you, Catherine, what got you passionate about doing what you do today?

 

Catherine Lenard 

I wanted to change my life. And I didn't know how to do it. So from a very young age, I was on a personal development quest in one way, shape, or form, or banana or another. And as an adult, there were several times in my life where everything went to ground zero. And after the most recent time that that happened, which was right in the timeframe of the 2008 crash of the economy. I had losses with family members with disability and sudden death. And I had a health crisis for myself. I was involved in real estate at the time, if anybody knows about that, it was a sidebar to my personal development work. And it was a point where everything went to ground zero. And I had to stop and say, What am I to do next? And I took a lot of time to really think about that, because I knew it would be a big commitment. And that's when I said, I'm going to take everything that I've learned throughout the course of my life, and I need to put the missing pieces together, put it all into a system that not to not only help myself but then to be able to help other people.

 

John C. Morley 

I love that, Catherine, I think when we find out how to do things ourselves, we want to share that with the world and our journey and how it's made our life better. And I think personal stories are really, I'm going to say the medicine or the remedy of the soul, the natural medicine and remedy of the soul because people love to hear about other people's great success. They'd like to hear about not just the success, but they'd like to hear about their trials and tribulations, the journeys, they went on, the challenges they went through, the victories. So, I have to ask you, before we wrap up, what would you tell somebody, if they were just a little bit on the fence about wanting to be centered? Because they just were so hyper they just were so hypochondriac is probably the best word. Is there any advice you could give us about that?

 

Catherine Lenard 

How much time do we have, John, because what I'm wondering, I'm going to go back to if you feel like you're skidding off the runway, whether it's a little bit or a lot to start with the breathing. It's something anybody can do. It's not going to cost you anything except your time and your attention. And there's a simple technique, if we have a few minutes, but I'll check with you first on that, John. It's the simplest way that I found to do this breathing and it's box breathing. If anyone has heard of that before. It's where you envision the shape of a square box and you breathe up, is tracing an outline of the box. So you breathe up to a slow count of four, enter your nose, you draw a line in your mind course. Pause that breath for four seconds and exhale out, going down the other side of the box. And then at the bottom of the back should go across, you just hold gently holding that breath. And again, up to the slow count of four through your nose, gently pause as you're going across the bugs, exhale out through your mouth. And then again, gently pause as you're going through the bottom of the box. So again, it's called box breathing 4, 4, 4, 4. And you continue to do that until you feel calmer, it might take a couple minutes. But it's something that you can do that will jumpstart it that will oxygen up your natural calming system that you have. It's for the tech people. It's the parasympathetic nervous system, but that is a place to start because when you're going like this, it's like you can't focus your attention.

 

John C. Morley 

And I think the important thing for a lot of people whether you're technical or not technical is that you don't need to become an expert at these things, ladies and gentlemen, overnight. You're going to progress at the level that you start up but you might be starting at a level that is greater than someone else or less than someone else. It doesn't matter. You just need to start wherever you can. And I think the most important thing you probably agree with me is you have to start. Wherever you can, you can start. Well, Catherine, this has been an amazing interview. But before I do say goodbye to you, I know you have a gift for our viewers, and we're going to actually post that on the website. So you don't have to worry about getting that gift or the URL. So, we're going to post it on our website, all of our videos from our shows actually get transcribed. And they're on our jmor.com website within seven to 14 days. So you can actually check that out, you can listen to the entire show again. And you can also read the show. So if you missed a point, because we're saying a lot of things that are affecting different nervous systems and different hemispheres in the brain, so you can go back and say, What were they talking about? What did they say? Oh, here's what they were saying. I thought they were saying ice cream, No, I didn't say ice cream, you get my point. It was really a pleasure to have you on the show. And I just want to ask you one last thing. If anyone wants to reach out to you, Catherine, then maybe they would like to talk to you further, how can I do that?

 

Catherine Lenard 

Just go to my website, there's all kinds of information including contact information, it's divineriches.com, just the way it sounds?

 

John C. Morley 

Well, again, I think this is something that a lot of people need to do. And the first thing everyone needs to do is admit that they need to do it. You don't have to admit it to anybody else. But you have to admit it to yourself first. And you can do this in the privacy of your own home. Catherine, I thank you very much. This was a very interesting interview. And I know our viewers are definitely going to absorb this knowledge. And I hope it improves some of their lives to become a little more calmer, a little more reserved, and to maybe live some of the dreams that they've always envisioned in their lives. 

 

Catherine Lenard 

Thank you so much for having me, John. My pleasure.

 

John C. Morley 

It's been my pleasure. Well, what did you think of Ms. Catherine Leonard's tips for us and some of the challenges she experienced in life?

 

Marcus Hart 

That was very revealing to just get those stats on like the global mental and emotional health crisis. Very impressive and just real good to get some tips too on how to feel better without spending any money.

 

John C. Morley 

I agree, it was an eye opener. I mean, I think a lot of people don't realize. We talk about numbers and statistics every day but I don't think people realize how challenged people are and how much it affects people's lives.

 

Marcus Hart 

It's an increasing problem. And we really got to roll that back. And I'm glad she's really proven the information out there and really helping people.

 

John C. Morley 

And we will have, like I said, when this show actually goes on our website and we transcribe it, we will have a link where you can actually click on the link and you can actually get a little gift that she has for you. But thinking about this and also about things to hopefully make you feel better. A lot of people stay inside their house all day. And they don't get that natural sunlight. People have those lights that you could put on so that hopefully you can feel a little better. But I know when somebody evil had this challenge before, sometimes you don't feel great or whatever mood and you just don't feel the greatest, it doesn't happen often. But it has to do with the humidity, it has to do with the state of let's say the world in how things are going. It also has to do with actually the amount of Wi-Fi and the amount of interference you have. So when you combine all these together, it can play a little havoc on your body and make it hard to navigate. Sometimes you feel like you just don't want even do anything and it's not your bite. It doesn't want to do anything. It's a false sense you're getting because of an effect that's happening in the universe.

 

Marcus Hart 

Exactly. You're so right. I didn't feel that before and been there. And it's growing problem. So I'm glad you pointed that out, John.

 

John C. Morley 

It is and I know sometimes when you have a challenging day and you're like oh my gosh, no, how-- I'm just like, Okay, this day was a little challenging, this is just today. This day's going to be wrapped up, tomorrow will be a better day. This was just something-- this day was maybe not as great as I want it to be but you get them once in a blue moon. And I think the important thing to realize is that you're going to get tomorrow. It's not a time for people say okay, I had enough with life. And incidentally, we're not really talking about a suicide in general but I do want to bring this up. And that is the national suicide basically hotline. And so because this is important, I do want to pop this on screen. But this is the number, it is 1-800-273-8255. Again, that's 1-800-273-8255. That is the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline in the United States. And they help basically funnel over 160 crisis centers that provide 24 seven service by a toll free number. Once again, that number is 1-800-273-8255. It is available to anyone in a suicidal crisis or emotional distress. So if you're not enjoying life, where you're saying, you don't want to be here anymore, you're having thoughts of ending your life, give them a call, it is 100% confidential, you can call from your cell phone, you can call from your home. And they're there to help you and to help you feel better about yourself. And so that might be the thing, maybe you're having a challenge with a relationship, or maybe it's a money issue or maybe it's a stress issue with school, because you're not getting the grades that you're expected to get or maybe it's something at work, right. It could be anything. So you know, definitely give them a call if you do need help. I will tell you that I was at my college, I was a peer counselor, and we provide our own suicide prevention line. But we always told people that if you can't reach us, you can always call this number, which is an easy way to remember. It's just 1-800 273, talk. I mean, that's not easy to remember, right? 1-800 273, talk. So again, if you're having emotional distress, you're not enjoying your life, where you feel to the point where you just don't know if you want to go on anymore. And maybe you don't have anybody around you that loves you. And I think it's really important that people know that there is a reason and a purpose for your life on this earth. And if you haven't found it yet, well, you will, you will. But there's no reason to take your life, or anyone else's, for that matter. Because you're having an experience that just something you can't deal with right now. All right, so important stuff. But you know, I'm thinking about sitting home, a lot of people watch TV, don't they?

 

Marcus Hart 

Yeah, they do.

 

John C. Morley 

Sometimes they watch too much. And there was all these binges with going with the different types of TV, whether we're talking to 1080p, then we have the LCD, the LED, 4k, and 8k will be coming out soon. And so there is a new inexpensive backlight that actually makes your big TV even more immersive. Yeah, um, the Philips Ambi light televisions for almost two decades, you can watch these displays bleed onto the wall into an amazing array of colors. And so this is something you have to literally see with your eyes. A lot of people can't believe it. But people say they can't justify the price for the premium despite the promise of the immersive viewing and how it literally, let's say bathes your room in these kind of colors so that you really feel part of it. Now, they also have something called a Philips Hue, external Hue play box. So the TV wasn't enough for you. Or you didn't want to spend the money, you could buy the Hugh play box. Now, what the heck is that? Well, it's a box that adds ambient light to any TV. And it'll set you back about $229 plus tax. 

 

Marcus Hart 

Wow. That's not bad, actually.

 

John C. Morley 

And it requires you to buy lights to use with it. So it's not like you just get the box. You still have to buy lights to use it.

 

Marcus Hart 

Oh, okay. Well, that's going to increase the budget a little bit more.

 

John C. Morley 

Yeah, it's going to increase the budget. And the thing is this, do you really want that? That's the thing you have to ask yourself. And is it something that is going to make a difference in your life, a lot of people are saying they don't want to spend the money. And so they have immersion TV back lights and they have free standing lamps. In fact, Lyra's is another one by goby. They have an immersion backlight kit, they make a kit. You know what can be expensive when they tell you what's a kit, right? They sell you one thing. It's like, very inexpensive. When it's a kit, Oh, yeah, we can easily get a couple 100 bucks or more for that. And they claim that it's got a budget price to ignite your dreams. So I could transform this bland living room into what they call and I quote unquote, a hyper chromatic party. It starts at 80 bucks. And sometimes it's less if you find it on sale, it includes all the components you need to make it work short right off the TV shelf. It's called the Gobi immersion kit. And so if you are wondering, what the heck am I talking about? Well, if you've ever gone to a friend's house and you watch TV, and there's these colors that come out, well, imagine the colors coming out of your TV set and onto the wall.

 

Marcus Hart 

I can imagine it but I can beg as the advocate, devil's advocate here that it might be a little distracting for some of your favorite shows.

 

John C. Morley 

Yeah, and this one here is saying it'll be right around $79.99 on our friends, Amazon. But the go via immersion kit, which goes on the back of your TV, it takes about an hour. Because there's a lot of caution has to be advised with how to glue over 12 feet. You heard me right, 12 feet of LED lights to a thin and very expensive LG OLED TV. So the strip is a single strand of RGB LEDs. And it just got to rest on the top of your TV with the strong three M adhesive. Some people say they want to use masking tape because maybe they put them on and you can't get this stuff off that easily. [sp] Go v says, "The immersion kit is suitable for TVs between 55 and 65 inches with the single LED light strip divided into sections measuring approximately 70 centimeters for the sides and 120 centimeters along the top and the bottom". So now you got to figure out how much you need and put it in the right spots. So now the other question you're going to probably ask me is well, this sounds pretty cool. But John, how the heck does this work? Well, I thought you'd never asked me. The [inaudible 42:12] immersion TV kit relies on an external camera to synchronize the LEDs with any colors it detects on the display. Thus, quote unquote, the hue play box will work with content fed to it via HDMI. And apparently, that gives govi the advantage for anyone who relies heavily on content source directly from apps installed on their smart TVs. So if you're somebody who wants to use apps, you can do that. And it will be very easily to take that content and give you a very as what they call quote unquote immersive experience. Now the place of the camera is extremely crucial. So if you don't put them in the appropriate places, you're going to be more than disappointed with the results. And the govi marketing materials suggest that the camera has to sit on the top of the TV. But when you open the companion phone app that you learn that it also can be placed at the bottom of the TV. So which is better, so you're going to have to play around and see what your environment looks the best in. And the TV usually in most places. If it's on the wall, it sits on a cabinet sometimes that has a sound bar in front of it. And a lot of times it completely hides the camera mounted below it. So now what do you do? The soundboard blocks most of the bottom strip of the LCD, so you don't get the full 360 immersion experience. It comes with a nice little app. And the effects lab, the timer, the brightness, the mode, you could set music, you could do video, you could do color, you could do scenes, you could do part of your TV, you could do all of your TV. I was at somebody's home not too long ago, they had one of these, and I found the thing darn distracting. And they're just watching a game. Imagine watching a movie or a horror movie and now you're literally seeing these colors all over your wall.

 

Marcus Hart 

It can be really quite frustrating to just kind of see they're dancing in the background, while you just simply just want to watch a good movie again.

 

John C. Morley 

Imagine now your TV's become like they do a Disney, you're at home and now you have a theater just like in Disney where they start selling a kit. And now you start making your furniture become a 3d experience where maybe you have things that vibrate in the furniture you have different sensations that's coming too or maybe a chair that you buy that could be several $1,000 or more maybe 15 grand that will rock you or that might tumble or that might appear like it's going to roll over do different things. So how much do people want to push the edge?

 

Marcus Hart 

Yeah, they're willing to just go all the way with this stuff and get crazy. And as I mentioned earlier, it's like having a party in your room and I don't know if I want to have a party every day while watching TV.

 

John C. Morley 

I think it might be nice once in a while. But I don't think I want this every single day. 

 

Marcus Hart 

No. 

 

John C. Morley 

It almost reminds me-- I don't know if you heard what happened this weekend. Great Adventure at Jackson Hole. As you may know, Jackson on thinking of Wyoming but in Jacksonville, I should say, New Jersey, El Toro partially derailed.

 

Marcus Hart 

Yeah. It's very unfortunate. 

 

John C. Morley 

And Jessica, their keynote person said that the ride operate exactly as it was supposed to. It prevented the tram from going off the track. But I'm like, why did the wheel come off the back? Why did it come up? She had acted just as it was supposed to. But now the Commission for the rides and amusements have mandated that that road, that ride actually be taken offline until us a proper repairs are made. And until they issue a statement that it can be reopened by the manufacturer. So I think I don't want to blame it on -- because everybody says that. I really think what it comes down to is that people during COVID are not giving the same attention to detail.  And so when the music Park reopened, and maybe they're operating on a skeleton crew. And I know because when I was in high school, and the first time I ever wrote a roller coaster was actually a Batman was a steel coaster. And I had studied the roller coaster for while I was there for my physics trip. And I talked to one of the engineers for at least a couple hours before I felt confident enough to go on it. What I knew what he did all the safeties and I figured out the probability is probably pretty safe. But the thing is, there's a lot of human maintenance that has to be done. Now, yes, the sensors can fail. And when they fail, he explained to me that they're six sensors, okay? And if they're more than four fail, the ride shuts down. If one fails, the ride doesn't stop. So that's like, Oh, that's weird. If a sensor fails, why wouldn't it stop? Well, we have six sensors on each car. So we don't want to stop the ride at least four of them fail, or they trip. 

 

Marcus Hart 

Yeah, that just doesn't sound safe. And they really should check that out and really look into that further.

 

John C. Morley 

I agree with you. So we'll have to see the voices that we're hearing from Jessica and for the PR crew and other people in the manufacturer but I'm happy they took it offline. I'm very happy about that. But I think maybe it might be time for El-toro to be decommissioned. They took great American screen machine down. And they actually just say they're upgraded, they don't say it's because of safety reasons. But maybe they missed the boat. Maybe this ride should have been decommissioned in so many years. There's a lifespan on rollercoasters.

 

Marcus Hart 

It is. These things are not built to last forever. They're not like a train that was built to last for decades, these things supposed to be serviced in maintained and then replaced once they have served their mileage.

 

John C. Morley 

Yeah. And the thing is, they said they got everyone off the ride within 10 minutes of the situation happening. That wasn't bad. But if you were on that roller coaster, you have to wait 10 minutes. I mean, granted, 10 minutes is not a long time, but if you're there and they weren't hanging upside down, I still think 10 minutes is a long time.

 

Marcus Hart 

Yeah, just be sitting in one place, I don't think you can be landing on a plane and sit in the runway for a while.

 

John C. Morley 

Sitting on the top of a hill or on the bottom. And you know some of those people could have been on the top of the hill. Some of them might have been down. They didn't care, but some of them might be on the top.

 

Marcus Hart 

Yeah, that's just not acceptable.

 

John C. Morley 

I think it was really poor taste of great adventure. And I've really strongly considered not going there anymore. Because if this is the kind of Monkey Business they're going to pull, I just don't think it's right. I mean, you know, I'm not a great big fan of Disney World. It's okay. But I got to say one thing, I think they do a better job of the ride maintenance. The reason I'm not very fond of them is I went there and I got food poisoning. And they tried to deny and all that. But I have to say I think Disney does do a very good job on safety, you know that. The second thing, so basically the way Disney works is they work on the premise of safety, courteousness best show efficiency. So what does that mean? That means that they will actually be rude to you if it's to keep you safe. They would rather waste more ammunition to have a better show. 

 

Marcus Hart 

I believe that, I believe that. 

 

John C. Morley 

So I have to say, as much as Disney get slack all the time, I do believe they have better operation for management. I'm really disappointed with great adventure in the operation center. I'm kind of appalled. I don't know how good universal is. I mean, we don't really hear too many stories, but you don't usually hear too many issues at Disney World having problems.

 

Marcus Hart 

No. But then again, though, John's, you compare a brand that is highly respected and it's been doing this for years and know what it takes to deliver quality versus place to get one location. 

 

John C. Morley 

Great adventure, I think has two or three.

 

Marcus Hart 

Yeah, two or three, but getting [sp] steel, they're not like some international brand, this is highly well known.

 

John C. Morley 

And I think that this is going to really set them back. Because if you're making a decision on whether to go somewhere, you probably won't go there because what is the right safe. That's probably everybody saying Is it safe? And I don't know now that this lady has, let's say, stated what she stated, I don't think I could ever believe her again. Because if she's willing to lie about this or what else is she willing to lie about, as we'll say, leave out details, or omission of the truth. 

 

Marcus Hart 

Omission of the truth is still lie and we all grew up learning that. And the CEOs and these representatives and spoke for people, they can't hide even though they try to.

 

John C. Morley 

Speaking about voices and hearing things, how would you like to go to your local, I don't know, food store or grocery store or department store and you hear a whisper in your head telling you to buy something? What would you think if you heard that if you heard something in your head? What's the first thing that would go through your head if you were at a store and you thought you heard something in your head? 

 

Marcus Hart 

I will immediately say, is it Halloween yet? 

 

John C. Morley 

My question is, have you gone nuts? And the answer is no, what the advertising agencies have. And so I think they're stepping this up a little bit too much. And so what they're actually starting to do, don't be surprised. You know, if it's not Halloween, if you get little suggestions, like buy peanut butter, buy milk, I mean, just little things like that or buy chocolate are-- and they're going to be whispers. So they're not going to seem like the whole concept is to make it seem like it's you thinking about it. And a lot of people are like, Oh, I guess I should buy that. Yeah, my subconscious is telling me to buy that I should buy it. I think it's dirty. 

 

Marcus Hart 

It is very dirty. 

 

John C. Morley 

It's really bad. I mean, oh, Coca Cola and other companies are not really to not blame because I'm not a coke drinker. But you know what they do in the movie theaters when they start the movie up, What do they do? They pour the soda. I'm going to do the same thing. Yeah. And then they tell you that subliminal advertising doesn't work baloney. And then when they show you something like that, it causes a craving for you to want to go get something. And I don't know. Somebody told me some very interesting today, Marcus, that we might have heard the story, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. Okay. 

 

Marcus Hart 

Yeah. 

 

John C. Morley 

I heard something I never heard before. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink. But you can lead a horse to water and you can make him drink. So when I heard this with a person, I was like, No, no, no, you have it wrong. I was like, it's like, it's you can lead a horse to the water but you can't make him drink. So no, no, no, you can lead a horse to water and you can make a drink. So that's not how it works. He says, Well, I have a different side of the story. So I want to hear this because well my life and you probably heard the same thing. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. And so he says to me, John Depends how you lead the horse to the water. And I said, What do you mean by that? So he said to me, he says, you put salt in your hand, and you have the horse, take your salt, and use your palm and you're walking toward the water. It takes the salt and now the horse is very thirsty. And now the course drinks.

 

Marcus Hart 

Yeah, that's a good one there. It's really compact. And it really illustrates what's happening here.

 

John C. Morley 

Isn't that kind of like crazy?

 

Marcus Hart 

This is crazy.

 

John C. Morley 

I was like, what I heard, I'm like, Oh, so what's in the delivery? That's kind of like saying if you go to get a car, buy or lease a car, you can bring a person to the dealership but you can make him buy. You could bring a person dealership, but you can make him body. So what do you do? I mean, how do you it's a similar thing. I think it's the same thing. It's just what you're using to motivate the person. But we all know when you go to a restaurant, and they have free appetizers but you got to pay for the drinks. And the appetizers are always salty. So they know what they're doing. If you put a little less salt in the pop, which-- Oh, yeah, it's a mix. We can't control it. And drinks are how much $12? And water, r we don't have free water. Well, they have water. Oh, yeah, we have water. Same price of soda at $7. Oh, okay. Per glass, oh, we just have bottle water. Oh, the small ones like that is $7, we only have one size. Last story I'm going to tell you, I went to a place locally, I'm not going to mention their name to destroy their innocence, which they really aren't innocent. I went to this place to have lunch, they make like homemade pizzas and whatnot. And I drink this water. So I got my arrow, I got water, which is filtered. So the lady says to me, she says, would you like water? And I said yes. She didn't tell me that this filter, non-filter. And so she opens a bottle, pours the water. Let's just say my pizza was, I don't know, $10. I get a bill. Okay, no joke. I get a bill. How much you think I get a bill for? I have about three bottles of water that they keep-- they're big. I keep drinking the water. How much you think I get a bill for?

 

Marcus Hart 

Yeah, I mean that that bill should have been no more than 20 bucks.

 

John C. Morley 

$31.

 

Marcus Hart 

Oh, wow. That's a rip-off.

 

John C. Morley 

$10 to the pizza and it's $7 for the bottle water. But the filtered water is free. So I won't go back there. I said, What? Oh, you didn't tell us you didn't want the bottle of water? Well, you didn't ask me, oh, we always serve the bottle of water unless you tell us, what should be the other way around because I have to pay for it. Well, that we do it. We just serve the premium water first. So something's wrong obviously with that picture, but I don't know. It's just going to have to see what happens. But another interesting little story. We always say that everything should be silent, right? 

 

Marcus Hart 

Right. 

 

John C. Morley 

And so here's one time the Marcus, when being silent might be deadly. There's a guy in Pakistan. And he sits quietly in his cubicle with his remote control or his control on is actually on his computer because he has a drone and he's controlling it from his computer. But this drone, Marcus, is silent until it comes on its prey. And it launches an ambush of weapons. And then you hear it firing the ambush and killing people. 

 

Marcus Hart 

Oh, no. 

 

John C. Morley 

So I'm wondering something, Marcus, is it going to be a law that drones can't be quiet so they don't sneak up on people like that? And the fact that they had any ignition on a drone, I was like, blown out of the water.

 

Marcus Hart 

I think everyone's fear is the fact that these drones would be weaponized. And that like they be coming out of the sky, just like sneaking up on people that then our targets.

 

John C. Morley 

Well, not to scare you. But the military already does have drones, they've been militarized.

 

Marcus Hart 

Yeah, they do that. Yeah, but bringing that here, we're stateside and making it a civil thing.

 

John C. Morley 

I mean, the FAA is going to be all over this. You know that?

 

Marcus Hart 

Yeah, yeah, of course.

 

John C. Morley 

So, of course it happened Pakistan, it's not going to happen in United States. That guy would have been in jail If he-- But everything they do at Pakistan, they could do whatever they want. And it's a very weird place. The only place I know that the power goes out, and they have no way to work all day. But I don't believe half the time the power goes out, I think they just make excuses between the power going out, and then saying that somebody is in the hospital, It's just like a common thing with them. I think it's their work ethic over there.

 

Marcus Hart 

Yeah, it is, you know, it's a little bit different, slightly different from the way we do things over here. And then, of course, the labor's a lot more inexpensive. So you're going to get different results. 

 

John C. Morley 

Yeah, it's going to be interesting. So, I think drones, there's going to have to be some rules passed about the fact if you're flying a drone that it can't be below so many decibels, because we're talking about not a small drone, we're talking about a pretty big drone. And that drone, not say the size of a helicopter, but pretty close to it. And with all those propellers running, you're going to hear it. Silent drone. Silent motor.

 

Marcus Hart 

Yeah, that's scary, that's really scary. If we're talking about scary technology, that's definitely on the list there.

 

John C. Morley 

So I think we have to be alert for things like this. I don't think it's going to happen to US, but not that that guy is going to fly it here. But here he was, he's sitting in a cubicle. And he's controlling this drone from his cubicle. 

 

Marcus Hart 

Wow.

 

John C. Morley 

But to get back on that sound pitch thing I wanted to tell you about before. So not only that, I'd say about the whispering. Well, this company called Holosonics. They not only have done what I mentioned to you, but they're developing something, they use very tiny speakers to focus sound into a very narrow beam. They call it ultrasonic frequencies. But very similar to a dog, how we can't hear a whistle for a dog, but they can. It's too high for the human ear to hear. But as the sound travels, it distorts the sound and makes it audible. So the air distorts the sound. Thus, if you are standing in the right place, you will hear it only in a certain spot. And they're going to use sensors to set messages off based on. Now if they tie that into people's preferences, they're going to know what to pitch you when you go to the store. If you want chocolate or if you want [sp] Haagen dazs or whatever you want, they're going to know your profile.

 

Marcus Hart 

Then all they have to simply beam you.

 

John C. Morley 

That's it. So, when you get close, and you know how they're going to do it, your phone has your preferences on it. Or you go to a store and you scan. Well, once they scan and they've targeted you, now they know who you are, and they know that person and they can pretty much track you in that entire store. I think that should be illegal.

 

Marcus Hart 

It really should. We've become too vulnerable to give up so much of this free data annoyingly to these companies so they can weaponize it against us in a way for them to fill up their pockets with more of our money.

 

John C. Morley 

Well, it has come to that moment, Marcus, that we're at the top of our hour. And we're done with our show for tonight, unfortunately. But listen, if you have a product or you have an idea for our show, you can visit jmor.com, click on the reach up button on your top right, let us know what product you have, you will have to donate it to us and send it to us of --free pre free paid. You also cannot pay us to tell us what you want us to say about your product. Thus, if you're sending us a lemon and you want us to try to make lemonade out of it, I suggest you keep your product. But if you want the truth revealed about the product, and by all means reach out to us. If you have an idea for a show or you'd like to be a guest on the show, you can click on the Apply to be a guest on our website under the Reach out section. And you need to follow the process that is all automated. You do need to go through the process. And it makes sure people understand what's required including signing the media release and stuff like that. But we really do look forward to having great guests on our show that are going to be about education. And the way it works is you'll put a pitch together for us. Our pre pitch team will look at it and see if it's something our producers would like to look into. If it is we'll invite you for a vetting, If not, we'll Thank you. And you're always welcome to re pitch another idea, but that idea might not be approved. And then once you go to the vetting, you'll hear very shortly after that, whether you're going to be on the show or whether your idea didn't make it. So there's the pre vetting, which basically makes sure that if we want to learn more about you, if we're not interested already, you're going to get an email telling you that we appreciate the time, but we just don't think it lines up with our target audience and our viewers. So unfortunately, we need to say goodnight to everyone. And remember to tune in what is it tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock? And where can they get that link, Marcus?

 

Marcus Hart 

They can go to transformyourpodcast.com or go to any podcast app that you listen to ready to be Apple, Spotify and to search JMOR Tech talk show.

 

John C. Morley 

Oh, you heard it, ladies and gentlemen. So another great reason for you to be on our show. Now you can be on our exclusive Podcast Network and something brand new we started working with. So again, we will be back next week with another great show. I cannot believe that we are in the month of July right now. And that's going to take us to July 16. Half of July is over, Marcus.

 

Marcus Hart 

It's out of here. 

 

John C. Morley 

It's out of here. All right, we got to wish everyone a great weekend. Be safe, be happy, be healthy. Don't drive people crazy. Ge