Click here to Watch this Episode
John C. Morley: (00:09)
Hi everyone. I'm John C. Morley, the host of the JMOR Tech Talk Show and inspirations for your life. Well, hey everyone, it is John C Morley, serial entrepreneur international talk show podcast host and your host tonight for the JMOR Tech Talk Show. It's great to be here with you Marcus celebrating our second week, I think the flowers I haven't seen him yet but I'm told they're supposed to be coming up with it being the, what is it the 13th of May? Where are those flowers? And when can I start wearing shorts?
Marcus: (01:29)
We got some warm weather on the way here, you know, it's rumored. So, we just got to keep putting well.
John C. Morley: (01:37)
Yeah, I know. Christmas is coming too so seniors.
But that's a fact they're coming.
Marcus: (01:44)
Yeah.
John C. Morley: (01:46)
First, I want to give a very big shout-out. Many of you guys know, that I also have another program on here, IFYL inspirations for your life. If you haven’t a chance, check it out at www.transformyouradio.com. And I want to give a big shout-out to some new fans from the greater New York City area for a couple of new follows, also a few people that just follow us from the Los Angeles area and some people from the Atlanta area, and of course last but not least, we got a couple of people that started following us from the Chicago area. Yes, we got a brand new person that followed us from the Milwaukee area. So thank you so much. Do appreciate it, we do look at our metrics and we do try to develop some high-quality content that we believe you want to listen to and watch why to improve the quality of your life, to improve other people's lives, to improve your safety and just to become educated and more aware about what's going on in society, and how to make choices when you're just getting bombarded with billions of bits of information per day?
John C. Morley: (02:49)
You're starting to wonder if you even understand what people are saying to you. So tonight, you know, it's no surprise ladies and gentlemen, that the primers are coming up with having the selection for Republican and Democrat person who's going to make the ticket they each get to have an election and they'll pick, who is going to be the person that'll be the Republican head, who's going to be the Democrat's head and who is going to be independent if they have an independent ticket head and then they'll have the other elections later on November. But a lot of school boards, boroughs, townships, they're getting ready in June for their election. But speaking of elections and votes, there's a vote that might be causing a big sway over Amazon. This might end the whole notion of them unionizing. What do you think about that, Marcus?
Marcus: (03:45)
You know, that's very interesting and, and I think there's going to be a lot of people that are upset, we talked about this on the other side and, there's going to be some huge pushback and probably some protests.
John C. Morley: (04:03)
Yeah, so www.amazon.com inc or www.amazon.org objections to a landmark union election at a company warehouse in New York City, justifying a hearing that could overturn the result of a US National Labour
Relations Board. Is this speculation Marcus, or is it going to happen? I'm not sure. I don't know what to believe until the judge, you know, pretty much casts that final decision. It's anybody's game Marcus.
Marcus: (04:36)
Yeah. Well, you got to wonder, would a company as large as Amazon-like, if they're holding the bag, if they got a little bit more leverage and those who, you know, really want this to stay around.
John C. Morley: (04:49)
That could be but it's sad if they do have that leverage because then they'd be abusing their power, wouldn't they? They wouldn't be doing what's best for our American people.
Marcus: (04:59)
And this is what we fear most with like super corporations.
John C. Morley: (05:05)
They don't represent the populace of the people or the consensus of the people. They do what's best to put more money in their pocket.
Marcus: (05:16)
Right.
John C. Morley: (05:17)
Unfortunately.
John C. Morley: (05:20)
We'll have to see what happens with that Marcus and our good friend, Elon Musk. What the heck is he going to do with Twitter Marcus?
Marcus: (05:31)
Well, I know, he's been tweeting away a lot more lately, and he has these crazy sarcastic ideas but it doesn't seem like he's putting anything out serious other than like.
John C. Morley: (05:47)
Well, I mean we don't know how to take him, he did put some beginning money down which is, you know, piddly change for him.
Marcus:
Right.
John C. Morley:
And Musk, I quote told banks that he agreed to help fund this 44 billion acquisition of Twitter, that he'd cracked down on executive and board pay at the social media company in a push to slash costs. So, he's also looking for ways to monetize tweets. The thing is this, is he buying this Marcus really for freedom of the speech and public, or is he buying it for just another cash cow? And if he's buying it for another cash cow, that might be a bad thing. Because, you know, we don't charge for email, many people can charge to have an email account but you don't get charged to send an email.
John C. Morley: (06:41)
Right? Even penny, I think he's looking at this for financial capital. He's looking at something that could put more financial eggs in his basket. I honestly don't think he wants Twitter. I think he's just so pissed off with how they're treating them that this is kind of like an FEU-type thing back to them. That’s what I think it is. I don't think he has the sincerity. So even though he did put some money down, he still can decide not to go through with it in a year, because that's what the process takes. So we'll have to follow that through and see what happens, Marcus. Right now, the way it feels and I could be wrong, I don't think he's going to go all the way through with it.
Marcus: (07:33)
Yeah, you could be and I definitely both feel that you're very strongly right about, you know, you in your face and I'll buy your company cause you screwed me over. That makes a lot of sense for, you know, someone like him.
John C. Morley: (07:49)
Because he's done this before, we've seen him do this with other companies, not by them but he's done this before. And you know, it's almost like this big executive CEO sandbox. Let's throw big boy pies in your face game. That's almost what it seems like to me.
Marcus:
Right.
John C. Morley:
You know, I have more money so I can have a bigger army, I can crush you because I can. I don't want to but I just want to let you know I can. I don't know, so we'll have to see where he's going with that and his real plans but the big thing I saw is that the board Marcus, they're having a heart attack these people. They're crying, they're in tears.
Marcus: (08:35)
Yeah.
John C. Morley: (08:38)
So, is he just going to suddenly come up with a package and remember, if he doesn't buy it, it stays in control where it is right now. And he could be having all these people count out of him and what happens in a year? Oh, well, we've decided not to go through with that merger, there were other projects were on the burner that seemed more important. I just see him, possibly walking away from it like that I mean, it's almost like what Jeff Bezos did with Amazon. He just walked away from Amazon. And the only reason he walked away from it is that he wanted to play with a bigger toy, a space toy.
Marcus: (09:14)
Yeah.
John C. Morley: (09:16)
But I don't get Marcus, how a company like Amazon can have such un-stellar customer service? How can they exist? I don't get it. I don't understand it. But yet people still keep buying from them
Marcus: (09:37)
And it flies over the radar, you know, it's not being cracked down enough. The customer services continue to be subpar and it's just really cracked.
John C. Morley: (09:49)
There are two companies out there I have to say, it's been very subpar, one has been that one, and another one that's been horrible has been Gusto. They offer a very inexpensive payroll, one fee for the month. But when they make a mistake, it's a disaster and you log tickets, you go back and forth. And if there's a real tax problem, they can't help you, you got to email and that's got to be somebody offline, they don't get on the phone. The tax compliance department doesn't take phone calls.
Marcus:
Oh wow.
John C. Morley:
They're in a dark room, there are no phones in there. I see, you should be getting a cordless phone. They work in dark rooms.
Marcus: (10:20)
Yeah.
John C. Morley: (10:21)
You know, what it sounds like to me, Marcus? It's like these people are deliberately shrugging responsibility. I mean that's what appeals to me.
Marcus: (10:32)
Yeah. It's a shame to have that many resources at your disposal and then you're not utilizing them and then you wonder why the little guy at you, you know, it's like, you're sitting there, like, what did I do?
John C. Morley: (10:54)
I think it's going to come down to the fact that and then there was another guy off, you know, this about maybe six months ago, he was trying to start another Amazon. I was laughing at it because he was trying to start this company and sell like stock for it. It went nowhere, but he is like, oh, I'm going to replace Amazon in six months. I'm like, yeah, right. The reason I said, yeah, right, is he didn't even have a website, he didn't have anything, he was selling people of something and then he was going to pay everybody for every sale to king throw.
Marcus: (11:28)
Oh, wow. Yeah.
John C. Morley: (11:31)
If you get in now, it doesn't cost you anything but if you get in a month from now, it might be $400 or $500 for the year. It just sounds to me like a Ponzi-type scheme.
Marcus: (11:38)
Yeah, it did.
John C. Morley: (11:39)
Similar to what happened with the wonderful crypto. I don't even want to hear any crypto, if you notice, I don't bring any crypto guests on. And the reason for that is, I just don't want them giving you false information, I feel every person that's about crypto seems to have garbage coming out of their mouth. So I'd rather them just speak in their trash can offline than, you know, take our valuable air time here. But crypto is not where it used to be and all those people that were you say, oh, it's going to do this, it's going to do that. They like fell off the earth. What happened? Oh yeah, I changed jobs and oh, I don't do that anymore, I don't have too much time for it.
Marcus: (12:24)
Yeah.
John C. Morley: (12:26)
It's crazy. So we'll have to see what's going to happen there and, you know, keep our eyes peeled about what's going to go on and when it's going to go on because I think that's not over, and I think a lot more is going to come to our table. Not tomorrow, maybe not this year, but I do see it coming. I think what people need to realize is that when change starts coming, it's going to cause people to rethink.
Marcus: (13:00)
Right.
John C. Morley: (13:01)
Let's imagine something for a moment, Marcus, why don't we Gander at the thought? And I know this might put some fears in people? About an airplane running on batteries, particularly a new cargo plane. Well, in Burlington Vermont, they are saying, you could join Kitty Hawk, North Carolina in the annals of aviation history, in the new beta technologies for startups, aiming to revolutionize the aerospace industry with the all, electric zero-emission aircraft, powered by batteries. Dragon fly-like craft has four tilting propellers that allow it to take off and land vertically without a runway, with a range of 250 miles per charge. Elia is designed to hop from charging station to charging station and the beta hopes to replace many short-haul trips with gasoline-burning trucks. I got a problem with that.
Marcus: (14:02)
Yeah,
John C. Morley: (14:02)
Because you know, I'm okay that one of my parcels is going on there but there's still a pilot on there at least or a pilot in a co-pilot. What if something goes wrong, there's no like, you know, get out of Dodge warning like, hey, the battery is going to go, you better jump out the plane.
John C. Morley: (14:22)
You know, it's almost like a Kamikaze suicide mission, right?
Marcus:
It is.
John C. Morley:
I just feel that maybe if they're going to do that, my feeling is that it should have a fuel backup. Now, not a lot of fuel, just enough fuel to safely land the plane.
Marcus: (14:40)
Right.
John C. Morley: (14:41)
That's what I'm thinking. Maybe it's enough for 10 minutes to land the plane, so if something happens, they can quickly make a descent with enough fuel to have enough to land the plane two or three times.
Marcus: (14:53)
I agree.
John C. Morley: (14:55)
So, that is my thoughts. You won't catch me investing one penny in that though.
Marcus: (15:01)
No, I don't want that blood on my hand.
John C. Morley: (15:04)
And that's blood.
Marcus: (15:08)
Yeah, at some point.
John C. Morley: (15:12)
So, you know, we talk about Uber and Lyft. Well, they extended their legal fee coverage to drivers, and they were sued under Oklahoma's forthcoming abortion law. It's pretty interesting. They both pledged to cover legal fees in the cases that the drivers are sued under Oklahoma's restrictive abortion bill, according to a report from the CNBC. So the bill has not yet been signed into law, but according to, and I quote Republican governor Kevin [inaudible], it is expected to approve within the next few days. I don't know Marcus, mixed views on that.
Marcus: (15:50)
Yeah. Oh man, that's so much entanglement right there, you know that.
John C. Morley: (15:55)
Yeah, well, we need a whole three hours just to even like touch the topic but my feeling, you know, without getting too controversial is that it should be the choice of the woman, okay. But I think that she should be educated to know what she's doing. And when is it an okay time? When is it considered, like killing? Because the fetus isn't fully born, then that's non-abortion yet. So I don't know, I think it's being hyped into a lot of money and a lot of nonsense, it's going to become a big profit maker for a lot of third parties.
Marcus: (16:38)
It is.
John C. Morley: (16:41)
It's funny how they just find these things too, you know, sink their claw into like the bag law, suddenly everybody, their mother and their brother want to become the bag experts that are selling these non-plastic bags.
Marcus: (16:54)
Yeah, that's true.
John C. Morley: (16:57)
You know, suddenly, it's like they want to sell, whatever they can sell, but these people are like, they hop around Marcus, they just do whatever they think is good. And like I was saying to you before, if you just keep hopping around, you're never going to be good at anything,
Marcus: (17:13)
No, you're not, we got a lot of SJWs social justice warriors who think they're on the front lines trying to impress you know, someone and put a footprint in the world but really they're not doing anything, they're not freeing, not even reinventing the wheels so it's, you know, it's an embarrassment.
John C. Morley: (17:38)
Now, we talk about ethics all the time and doing things morally right. Hollywood's getting a slap in the face, as they're strongly starting to go after people that are using VPNs illegally.
John C. Morley: (17:56)
So what does that mean? Well, first it became an issue of let's call it being unanimous and keeping your own identity out so people know what you purchased, but then it became a little more involved. And that wasn't the problem. It was the fact that people started to use VPNs so that people couldn't trace back to them. And now, many are being accused of copyright infringement, enabling a slew of illegal activities. We're not just talking about copyright infringements. We're also talking about, let's say exploitation of minors.
John C. Morley: (18:37)
That's pretty hard.
Marcus: (18:39)
Yeah.
John C. Morley: (18:41)
And I can tell you, this might take some time before they get these people, but this is something a judge is not going lightly on.
Marcus: (18:49)
Right.
John C. Morley: (18:51)
You know, it's one thing if you don't want somebody to know, or you go to a hotel and you purchase a video, you don't want somebody to know what you purchased. But, now more companies are getting creative, they bill your card, something media company, because a media company's fine, right? They don't put actually what you purchased, they put something media so that's fine, but what these people are doing is actually exploiting kids, non-teams, non-adults, and then offering them money, to be able to be part of something.
John C. Morley: (19:30)
And funneling money, the way they're funneling this money is they're trying to funnel it through PayPal, and a lot of these other PayPal's getting strict though. A lot of these other companies overseas, if you ever notice Marcus, a lot of these adult sites, they're not running the United States. Because you guys will shut them down. They have accounts in other countries.
Marcus:
Yes.
John C. Morley:
And if you want to, I don't condone this, you want to do something illegal, you're going to pay a lot of money and they'll keep their mouth shut. Something's wrong with that picture.
Marcus: (20:01)
Yeah.
John C. Morley: (20:03)
And you're talking at tune Marcus of not like free or $10 or $20 a month for your bank account. You're talking two to $5,000 a month to have the right to do business in another country.
John C. Morley: (20:19)
Why? Because of fraud and chargebacks.
Marcus: (20:23)
Wow.
John C. Morley: (20:24)
But the credit card companies are not very clean either.
Marcus:
No.
John C. Morley:
They don't want these people when they're not making money but suddenly when they start cranking the money and there are no problems and they see a lot of traffic and money coming with very little returns, they want to be on board with it.
Marcus: (20:46)
Right.
John C. Morley: (20:48)
There was a company I forget, several years ago, Marcus, they were selling babies online.
Marcus: (20:52)
Oh my goodness.
John C. Morley: (20:55)
To the highest bidder.
Marcus: (20:57)
Oh, wow.
John C. Morley: (20:59)
So, unfortunately, if somebody wants to pay a price, they're going to get away with it if they do it outside the country. If they bring it inside our country, it becomes a problem. So what these Hollywood people were noticing is that their videos are getting exploited but now, they're doing all this other illegal activity and it's suddenly a problem. It's not causing the film industry to be in trouble, they're not getting in trouble for it. But they're annoyed because their content is driving these predators to do what Mr. Nuchitelli says, which is that online distress, dictates the offline response. And so it's conditioning these people to be animals, to be somebody that doesn't think with their logic or their mental or their moral brain. That's a really big problem, Marcus.
Marcus: (21:56)
That is. Yeah.
John C. Morley: (21:59)
And I think people have to learn that. I tell people this every day, you know, you can't buy me like, oh, what do you mean you can't buy me? You don't get it, it's a principle. Oh, I'll take it, you don't understand and you ask nine out of ten people, they don't want to do something. Suddenly you pay them, they'll do it. I've done this as an experiment, just to see, I didn't really give the money but I was just testing them. I said, well, I wasn't going to pay you, I was just curious to see if you would do it, I was not going to pay you. He said, so you could be bought. Well, I mean, you know, you're offering them money, just wanted to see you were willing to take it.
Marcus:
Yeah.
John C. Morley:
And then Travis says, oh, I knew you were just joshing me. No, you didn't. Because you were trying to negotiate the amount of money you were going to get.
John C. Morley: (22:56)
So you didn't know that it was a setup.
Marcus: (23:02)
Exactly.
John C. Morley: (23:04)
So many things in this world, Marcus happens, people pay more money, and then suddenly, they can just happen even though they're not supposed to happen. That's another problem. That's why we have the secrecy act of money which we talked about. You go over a $10,000 deposit, well, the bank's going to report that to the IRS. They keep seeing those transactions, they're probably going to send you a letter and ask you that they're going to want to visit you.
Marcus: (23:37)
Yep.
John C. Morley: (23:39)
You know, they're not coming after somebody that takes $10. Okay, although you shouldn't take anything.
Marcus: (23:47)
No, you are saying they are.
John C. Morley: (23:48)
They're after the big guys, they're after the guys that are taking a million, 5,000, 10,000, multiple clips.
Marcus: (23:56)
Yeah.
John C. Morley: (23:58)
And they figure that if they take this Marcus, they could just magically leave the country. This is why they open banks in other countries.
Marcus: (24:09)
Yeah.
John C. Morley: (24:09)
It's more and more banks out of countries are starting to cooperate with the US secrecy act.
Marcus: (24:16)
Yep.
John C. Morley: (24:18)
So you can't just bury your money in Switzerland anymore or put it under a mattress.
John C. Morley: (24:26)
But our last story for tonight is a really good one. People say to me John, you know, automation is going to be the killer of industries, especially the automotive industry. So automation is not the biggest killer of the auto of, of the automotive industry. Okay. So the number of American workers who quit their jobs during the pandemic over a fifth of the workplace may constitute one of the largest American labor movements in recent history. The problem is not automation, the problem is people.
Marcus: (25:01)
It is, and we talked about this, like throughout all of the.
John C. Morley: (25:06)
Pandemic
Marcus: (25:07)
Man, just like how people just like refuse to go back to work and then when they go back to work, they got to do different demands. Then it's really hard to just retain, you know, good honest work nowadays.
John C. Morley: (25:23)
Well, my philosophy is this so if I interview 500 people.
Marcus: (25:27)
Yeah.
John C. Morley: (25:28)
Probably come close to hiring too.
John C. Morley: (25:31)
That's terrible. Isn't it?
Marcus: (25:33)
It is. Yeah, I'm finding myself in the same boat right now.
John C. Morley: (25:36)
What I find out the magic sauce if you will, is this, you have to get them to pre-qualify so they answer the questions, and you set up a virtual interview with them. They don't show up they're done. And I put right in the job application, we are busy. If you don't show up to the virtual interview or the in-person interview, you're done. Kicking back to me, cursing me out, telling me you have blah, blah, some nerve. He says when you develop a proper attitude that maybe you'll get some people. I want to work from home and this is what I'm worth. It's terrible so my magic sauce is this, they show up, you validated them and now you let them know, you're going to do the background check which they know but I don't rush through the background check, I do another survey with them in person. They take the survey, we see if they're worthy, and I look at their resume. So you know, my range. Oh, I'm okay with your range. They're okay but truthfully Marcus, they're not, they just told you that I'm okay with what you're paying. Okay, low to high, and usually you start with the lower number. So I go to him, okay, so you're happy, what would you like to get paid if you start? What would you like to make? And then they have a conversation well, I would like to get a couple more dollars an hour. What would you like to get? And so, I think it's about having that conversation because if the person can't tell you what they want, they're done. If they come and say, Hey, John I like it, but I need an extra $2 an hour.
John C. Morley: (27:26)
The can, it's worth it, are you okay with, let's say having a crappy job or would you rather blow, let's say, an extra one to $3 a day per employee, per hour. So let's say, you have one employee eight
sixties, fourteen, can you not afford 14 or $15 more a day? Is that going to make a difference to you? Probably not, and that extra dollar or two could be the difference between that person not being replaced.
Marcus: (28:03)
Right.
John C. Morley: (28:04)
It's all about finding somebody that agrees with your mission, culture, and company.
John C. Morley: (28:12)
Just seeing, are they happy where they are right now? I interviewed a kid the other day and he is working for a company, I said well, I know you're working for this company and that's great, he was working from a third party that hired him to work at this company. I said, are you happy at that company? Well, not really. The hours are terrible. Well, is there any advancement at that company? Like can you make any more money? Can you get any raises or any kind of promotions or any kind of job changes? Not really. I said, so if another job came around where you could make more money, you could be more respected, you could learn something new, would that be of any interest to you? Yes. So I think you have to find out what motivates people Marcus, and it's not money.
Marcus: (29:01)
Yeah. Some people are just looking for different amenities, that are added in the job area, you know, some different benefits.
John C. Morley: (29:11)
So we're working on something starting in January that we're going to have a whole bunch of services when they come on board that they have access to. One of the lowest mortgage rates in the industry and in addition to doing this, we make a few points off of it, but we're doing this because we're bringing this to them.
Marcus:
Right.
John C. Morley:
And the fact that they might need other services so, I think that's what employees want, they want to know that you got their back. And I tell them, this's upfront. Look, guys, I don't know if it's going to work or not but if you take care of me, you could have a very long future here. And some people that are smart like that, other people that don't. Also, when I do the background checks, and the drug test, I'm like, you got to have it done within 48 hours. Make sure, and when you see somebody getting it done well within that time or earlier than that time, you know that person's interested in the job, and I tell reference, to bring somebody on board, it costs me close to $900 to bring somebody on board, with the drug tests, the background check, the uniforms. That's a lot of money, then they had that person quit because they weren't psychologically on board. So we like to basically hire slow and fire fast. So we're not in a rush to hire anybody. We want to get the right guy or the right girl for the right position.
Marcus:
Yeah.
John C. Morley:
And I think everybody today, Marcus is trying to play smoking games, [inaudible]. And you got to be honest with your cards, if you're working somewhere, look, I'm working somewhere, full time but I'm interested in working part-time and open to possibilities in the future. You got to be honest when you walk in that door. I had a person several years ago, he was from a white-collar jail.
Marcus:
Okay.
John C. Morley:
And we were running his background check, a gentleman, lot older than me and he came to work and we ran his thing I said, is there anything you want to tell me before we did everything? He says, well, John, he says, you're going to find some stuff on me. I said, okay, well just tell me what it is? I said you know, that may not even affect your employee, we just won't know what's on there, you want a big speeding tip, what is it? He says, no, you're going to find that I was arrested.
John C. Morley: (31:34)
Oh, okay. May I ask for, what was it stealing? You don't have to give me all the details but what, can you give me a general idea? Oh yeah, sure, it was a white-collar crime. Okay, so you didn't harm anybody, you didn't steal anything. Well, I did they said I stole money from the IRS. So it was a white-collar crime. Even though we were working with his parole officer, he was probably one of our best employees at the time. About a year or two before COVID, he decided he wanted to leave because he had gotten a job, supposedly, he was a Jack of all trades doing the building. And that really wasn't what he wanted to be but he wanted to go move with his brother and do that, and then he asked his parole officer if he could leave early, they said no, then they said yes, before I know it, instead of having, you know, like the two or three weeks notice, I'm being told that he's leaving whatever shortly I mean, I was told in a month but the point is that I expected to have another six months, that kind of just changed. So I think being honest and front with people is the most important thing you can do as a person and create that relationship up front, even if you don't get hired. These kids today, you tell me, want to meet with them, and then they suddenly don't show up because they're busy, I had one person, oh, I really should sue the carrier company so why? Well, it was their fault that I didn't get your phone call I mean, it was their fault. Well, I had my phone on, but it didn't ring. So why should Sue Verizon? Well, I don't know if you really can Sue Verizon, well, I should because I could have been making a lot more money working with you guys, and now, because you're being such an idiot and won't talk to me because I didn't.
John C. Morley: (33:27)
So you need to hire me, I don't need to do anything. You need to become more responsible ma'am and when you do, your life's going to change, can't be having your parents do it for you, can't have your friends do it for you, you can get help but you got to be the one in the driver's seat. You got to be the one that takes the credit, the responsibility. And if you're not ready to put on those big boy, that big girl shoes.
Marcus: (33:59)
Yeah.
John C. Morley: (34:00)
You're just not ready.
Marcus: (34:02)
Yeah, you can forget about it.
John C. Morley: (34:05)
Because once somebody knows your character and personality, you're done. And I think today the hardest thing with hiring somebody, is getting people with that higher mentality. I think doing tests with them is one way, but somebody that applies for a position says they wanna learn. And then they come in to take a test and they can't even answer a basic question. Who do they think they're fooling Marcus? I think a lot of these people since COVID they become con artists.
Marcus: (34:50)
Yep.
John C. Morley: (34:50)
As they can, and because they know you can't get anybody, it's really important to let these people know that you're not desperate and that there are the candidates you're interviewing.
Marcus: (35:04)
Right.
John C. Morley: (35:05)
Because they suddenly think, well, I'm the only one. You'll get somebody that's asking you for a high price, it's not even worth it, but it is a process, it's about getting to know them, doing a reference, check on them, their references and somebody that tells you that it's not worth all this time and effort, say okay, that's fine, we're probably not a fit anyway. When somebody tells you how to interview or tells you when you should finish, I tell this person might take a week or two before we get your results. Oh, okay, no problem, another person a week or two, I can't wait that long. Well, maybe we shouldn't even start the process then.
Marcus: (35:48)
Yeah, and you waited this long.
John C. Morley: (35:51)
I don't want to hold you up, maybe you can go get a job at one of the restaurants or something.
Marcus: (35:56)
Yeah, but my thing is like, they waited this long, you know, so what seems to be, just the rush now.
John C. Morley: (36:06)
Well, the rush now is they want to put your name down on the unemployment application, to show somebody that they went for a job interview.
Marcus: (36:14)
Oh yeah, okay. Now you understand
John C. Morley: (36:18)
That's where they're coming from and they got to get done by the week or they're going to lose their unemployment pay.
Marcus: (36:24)
Oh yeah, we've got a bunch.
John C. Morley: (36:26)
Well, they got to go in person and before a case worker, they got to lie and, con artist, the person into believing that they're trying to look for a job when they're not.
Marcus: (36:38)
Right.
John C. Morley: (36:39)
This is when they tell all kinds of stories, their mom's in the hospital, their father's sick with a heart problem, their grandmother got rushed to the hospital, their friend, something happened to them, all kinds of excuses that I will call psychosomatic because they never really existed. Their diseases that somebody brought on, but there's no trait of the disease.
Marcus: (37:07)
Right.
John C. Morley: (37:09)
Like the father has a heart attack, but it didn't have a heart attack. You know, just, and then tomorrow he might say that maybe he had a COVID or something because that sounds hot these days
Marcus: (37:25)
And very believable.
John C. Morley: (37:27)
Very right, believable. Somebody told me, oh, I got co I said, oh, well, that's a shame, what are you doing for? Oh, nothing, or are you going to get tested? No, that's okay. All right, well, I guess we'll see in 14 days, what do you mean? Well, if you don't get a test. Yeah, no, it's fine. It’s just minor. How do you know it's minor? Well, it'll go away. I had it once before, oh, you had COVID before I had it.
John C. Morley: (37:53)
So what are systems like? Oh, just a little headache, stuffed up. Oh really? Oh, you're you got it mild compared to some people. Yeah, no, I'm really, I have a really good gene and it didn't hit me so hard. Well, that's great. And you can just tell that they're lying to you. The other way you can tell is if somebody gives you too much information. Well, my mom, at 11 o'clock last night, rushed her to the hospital. She got there, but the doctor wasn't available. They had a rusher in for emergency surgery that came out. Unfortunately, she still had a problem, they had to rush in again. I mean when they add too many details to the story, they try to make it believable, but it's not the truth.
Marcus: (38:39)
Right.
John C. Morley: (38:40)
I play a game with my friends, it's called two truths and a lie. Can you tell which one's the truth? Can you tell which one's a lie? I'm a sorrowful entrepreneur. I enjoy reading books. I help people when they don't want help. A little hard to tell which one's truth, and which one's a lie. They all seem believable, the last one. I'm not going to help somebody if they don't want the help. So it doesn't have to be anything crazy. And you just got to be comfortable with the person, if you could be comfortable with the person, if you run a few minutes over like, oh, you know, I got to go, I got another, oh, I'm sorry, I'm going to cut you short. If they're telling you the interview time is over, that's a good indication, that's probably, oh, no problem, I'm sorry to keep you, we'll let you go, I don't want to make you late for your next interview.
John C. Morley: (39:38)
Or I had another girl, she was from college. She wanted an internship. She's like, oh, you know, I'm coming back and I don't know when I'm going to have time, I'm going to be back next month, what is it? You go through all the questions with them, it's like, okay, well I'm not sure. Well, I don't know, do you live close? Yes, I live close. Okay, well that's great, want to come for an interview? I'm not sure if it's a fit yet, let me take a couple of weeks and think about it. That's a problem.
Marcus: (40:11)
It is.
John C. Morley: (40:12)
They just feel they want to, oh, because your thinking, the job will be there a few weeks. Well, it may not. Oh, well can you call me if it's not available? No, that's that word, it's entitlement.
Marcus: (40:30)
Dangerous.
John C. Morley: (40:32)
It has a good connotation to feeling entitled to empower yourself to be better, that's great. But when the entitlement drips into making you be a jerk or a selfish prick, that's when it's gone too far,
Marcus: (40:52)
Exactly.
John C. Morley: (40:53)
Well, we are at the top of our next hour, I don't know where this all goes but we'll keep tracking this stuff for you and let you know what's going to happen with all these great people, we have another good guest coming up next month in June we try to have one or two guests a month to keep you guys on your toes. And if you have an idea for a show, you know, reach out to us@ www.jmoore.com, click on the reach out button. Or if you'd like to be a guest, you can reach out to our team and we'd be happy to set up a pre-interview to see if you'd be a good fit for a guest, remember, this is not a sales show. So if you're coming here to try to sell what you made or trying to tell us about what you can do for somebody for 999 or whatever it is you got the wrong show, you're probably looking for eBay or perhaps you're looking for one of the Facebook selling channels but that's not what we're about so if that's your intention, we're probably going to thank you for your time and move on. Well, it has been another great show Marcus, and as much as I don't want to say goodbye, we have to. So goodbye everyone, have a great weekend. Keep up with technology, be smart, get educated and make sure that when you're going to do something in life, you do it from your gut, not because someone else tells you to do it, be sure to check out IFYL, we have lots of great things happening there, inspirations for your life because everyone wants to become a better version of themselves. We'll see you next week which for those of you that are tracking this, that's May 20th but you can always come back to our channel and watch these shows 24 hours a day and become inspired because we got lots of nuggets in these shows so you probably want to watch him a few times. Hey, it's free so what do you have to lose? Grab your favorite beer, your brew, or your snack, lounge up on the couch, sit in your favorite easy chair and plug us in, watch us or hear us because we'll inspire your life when you're not even ready for it. I'm John C Morley, a serial entrepreneur. We'll catch you next week everyone, take care.
Marcus:
Hi everyone.
John C. Morley: (43:58)
All right, let me get that uploaded, one second here, another great show.
Marcus: (44:04)
Yes.
John C. Morley: (44:07)
Not too long, just around the 42 minutes Marc. Oh, we're still broadcasting, whoops, why, aren’t we? We make sure you cut that out for some reason, I don't know what happened there.