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John C. Morley: (00:00)
You're going to be required to run windows 11 and therefore be required to have a TPM chip.
Marcus Heart: (00:07)
I can't imagine that you know what’s away from the corner, you know, everybody, who's, who's going to just go to need it. You know, who's going to not be able to survive without it.
John C. Morley: (00:18)
Yeah. So I what think to happen is the motherboard manufacturers weren't ready for this. So people say to me, John, can I add a TPM to my PC? So if you built your desktop PC in the last few years and you're pretty comfortable playing around you know, under the hood, yes. You can go into the system bios and you can add a discrete TPM 2.0 to your motherboard.
(JMOR tech talk show. We answer questions about technology, explain the way they should work and why they tone sometimes).
Well, hi everyone. And welcome once again to the JMOR tech talk show, it is great to have you, Marcus. It's nice to see you back. How are you doing this fine Friday?
Marcus Heart: (01:05)
Hey John, it's good to be right back with you. And I'm doing good today.
John C. Morley: (01:09)
That is good to hear. So it's great to have you as my trusty co-host and we are in November, actually November 5th, what happened to October? What happened to Halloween? I mean, what happened to anything? It was just a mess. Everything just kinda like flew by
Marcus Heart: (01:27)
Yeah. Just breath right by and here we are. You know, we, we count down the end of the year pretty soon.
John C. Morley: (01:33)
I know. And they're saying the kids what is it? 5 to 11 or 5 to 12 are now going to be able to start getting they call them pokes, not shots, but pokes in their arms. And they are starting the first week of November. So maybe that'll change things a little better. I know things have been better for me on my end. How about you? Have things been better out by you noticing things a little better?
Marcus Heart: (01:53)
yell, You know, cases here are still soaring. I'm in a big city here. So, you know we are hoping for some relief here through so,
John C. Morley: (02:00)
All right, that's good. I know at least we can move around so that is a good thing. But speaking about our world these owners of Apple are becoming obsessed with how much you have heard about this with this new $19 cloth. It was thought to be, you know, this match of these cloths put together and it emerged just last month, Apple was marketing the 6.3 inches by 6.3-inch cloth to da away dust and fingerprints and Polish to make your phone look nice again. and the price tag of 19 bucks for a cloth
Marcus Heart: (02:50)
You know, I didn't see cloth just like this equally, enough good, at the dollar general or dollar store
John C. Morley: (02:57)
They claim that there are certain polymers in there. I don't know unless we tested ourselves. Is it that good? Maybe I'll have to do a review on this cloth. That might be something I'll have to do because I don't know, $20, $19. That's a lot for cloth. Remember that's 19 pounds. So if you convert 19 pounds British what is that to us dollars? That's rough if I'm doing my math, right. $26.
Marcus Heart: (03:25)
Oh, wow. It's pretty ridiculous.
John C. Morley: (03:28)
but apple seems to get away with charging for things because they can,
Marcus Heart: (03:37)
Yeah, it sounds like what they do is just as long if they got their name on it. They expect brand loyalty and usually, it works.
John C. Morley: (03:45)
Yes. Well, they've had brand loyalty for a very long time, and they've always been the kingpin. I'm going to call it the bowling alley of the world. But recently I'm not sure if you know this, Microsoft just passed Apple. It's now considered the most valuable quote-unquote company.
Marcus Heart: (04:04)
But that's a real good said because when we talk about, you know, companies becoming these huge giants. Microsoft, we should have known they were around a corner somewhere at some point.
John C. Morley: (04:16)
Yeah. So you know, Apple is having lots of supply chain issues. That's no surprise to any of us. I mean, I was very fortunate to get my iPhone 13 Promax I was vigilant about getting it quickly. But people were having trouble getting theirs and I knew that was going to happen. We knew that. And the companies market cap from Microsoft surpassed 2.44 not million, ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to say this again, trillion. Okay. That was in April. And it stands with an apple as the soleus company retaining a market cap above 2 trillion. So I think Apple could have done it, but I think it just, couldn't get the product into people's hands. They couldn't make the sales.
Marcus Heart: (05:06)
Yeah. And it makes a ton of sense.
John C. Morley: (05:08)
I think personally, once our supply chain comes back out of this pivot, I think they could regain their market share. Might take them a little while. But I'm sure they're not happy that they're not the first kid sitting at the birthday party. Like they're now like the 10th. Well, They're like the second, but I don't know if they're going further behind and experience shows me that. I think they're going to fall further before they get up higher.
Marcus Heart: (05:37)
Yeah. They're going to take a huge dip before they’ll be right at the top again. And it seems like Microsoft is not slowing down, even just rolling out some new updates and software. So, you know, Microsoft.
John C. Morley: (05:50)
So, I want to quote Bloomberg news, one of my colleagues and I quote Microsoft is the world's largest listed company by market value following a drop in Apple shares. The iPhone maker is under pressure after reporting fourth-quarter revenue that fell short of walling Street's estimates. The last time Microsoft dethroned Apple was in the first half of 2020.
Marcus Heart: (06:18)
Wow.
John C. Morley: (06:20)
Yeah. So be an interesting thing, but I have to tell you I'm not on the, I just say totally on base with windows 11. I think it's got issues. I'm personally not playing to upgrade to it probably till this time next year if I don't see too many problems, but I played with it. It's got issues, which we knew, but I think they rushed this product out. I remember this product was rushed out and people weren't at Microsoft, they're working from home. And I just feel Marcus that you lose something when people work from home. Yeah. I know we all too talk about this nonsense about collaborative and we can do all these meets and these things. It's garbage.
Marcus Heart: (07:05)
Yeah.
John C. Morley: (07:06)
It's not the same thing as sitting next to somebody. I have people in the office and they're like, oh John, I want to work from home.
John C. Morley: (07:12)
And it's not the same. Oh yeah, it is. I said, your productivity level is just not the same at home. Because you know, you're watching the kids, you're making dinner, you're making breakfast. I'm not supposed to be paying for all that. And then, you know, they give you an ultimatum. Well, you know, if you can't do that, maybe I should get another job. Okay, fine. Go get another job. I don't see too many people hiring right now. Or they are, but they're hiring in the Minuscule. I think people are hiring even these big companies. They're not hiring at $15. Some are hiring at 14.50 and some are hiring at 12.50 an hour. They're supposed to raise the minimum wage, but that never happened in New Jersey. It did New York.
Marcus Heart: (07:58)
Yeah. There's still a lot of people. That's the first companies that are behind and you know and not looking to make that jump to $15 an hour.
John C. Morley: (08:07)
And you know, where people got a lot of their money from a good chunk of it. People that didn't know maybe had a college degree or whatever they were demonstrators, you know, that market was closed for a very long time at BJ's, Costco, Sam's club. Right. Well, they just announced this week that they're bringing that back. So our world, I think is slowly starting to turn the corner. I think we still have to be careful about, you know, what's going on, but we're going to be on the lookout to see what Microsoft does and where they're going. I think that it should not have been released until Q3 or Q4 of 2022, but they didn't want to do that because they're afraid of revenues because they've already taken a lot of money on pre-orders for Microsoft windows 11.
Marcus Heart: (09:00)
Yeah.
John C. Morley: (09:05)
Do you know? I don't know Marcus. I feel like they push these things out and it's a problem. So windows 11 is going to come pre-install for free on new PCs. And if you installed windows 10 or update in the last year or two, you're going to be able to pretty much update your computer. So if you've had a computer, let's say within the last, maybe one to two years, you're going to be able to upgrade with no problem. If it was before that, just like they did with 10, you're probably going to have to pay a fee to, you know, Microsoft because you know, they only give it for free for some time, but right now it's interesting. You can do a pre-order okay. For Windows 11 trusted you can get it free. So it's interesting.
John C. Morley: (09:57)
They’ve been announcing this pre-order but you know, it is out. So they keep saying pre-order, but it's out right now. You can buy windows 11. So I think there's a little bit of confusion. People say, oh, is it out? Is it not? No, it is. It's fully out. And people say, but John, well, how much is windows 11? So if you have is the windows 11 upgrade. Cause some people can't upgrade a windows 11 and I'll tell you why they're missing a required component. So there are required components for windows 11. And a lot of people don't know about these required components. Like, oh, I have those required components. And they don't understand that. Yes. You know, they have the one gigahertz and the two or more cores on a 64-bit chip and, and things like that. But they're missing something they're missing the trusted chip. I'm going to call it a nickname. I'm going to call it’s the TPM. Okay. The TPM is required. So the TPM is the trusted platform module. It's the quote-unquote technical name. I don’t know if you know this, but windows 11 won't run without the TPM.
John C. Morley: (11:09)
So you can either buy a TPM module if your motherboard supports it. Okay. You have to be running TP 1.2 or greater. And people say my John, you know, well, well, what is the TPM module? I didn't have it before. Or why do I need it now? Well, the trusted platform module is sure its international standard for secure crypto processors and dedicated microcontrollers designed to secure hardware through integrated cryptography keys. So ensure it's meant to make sure a hacker doesn't stick their nose, where they don't belong because it has a lot more algorithms to police your hardware and not the software level at the hardware level. We haven't seen stuff like this in a while. No
Marcus Heart: (11:59)
We haven't. You know, in the fact that we,
John C. Morley: (12:01)
So if you don't have the TPM module, for example, if you're going to like, you know, your windows, computer, and you're looking at, you know, where it says windows updates, which a lot of people are doing, you're going to see there's an option there that says check for updates and you're going to see it says download. And then it says this PC either meets or does it meet. And so, for example, my computer here that I'm using at my desk is about a little over two years old which is not very hold at all. I just popped a new SSD into it, not too long ago. But it doesn’t meet the Windows 11 requirements. So what does that mean? Well, that means technically in the future, I'm going to have to change it because you know, what's going to happen. Marcus. I can guarantee you if you're putting computers into HIPAA compliance places, which they don't even know this is going to happen, but you and I know that I'm always ahead of the curve. It's going to be become required. You're going to be required to run windows 11 and therefore be required to have a TPM chip.
Marcus Heart: (13:04)
I can't imagine that you know, what a way the corner, you know, everybody, who's going to just go to need it. You know, who's going to not be able to survive without it. You,
John C. Morley: (13:15)
Yeah. So I think what happened is the motherboard manufacturers weren't ready for this. So people say to me, John, can I add a TPM to my PC? So if you built your desktop PC in the last few years and you're pretty comfortable playing around you know, under the hood yes. You can go into the system bios and you can add a discreet TPM 2.0 chip to your motherboard. If you didn't. Well, that may not be supported by the actual manufacturer of your PC or your motherboard if it was like a part of a package. And so you know, basically TPM 2.0 needs to be enabled in the bios. Okay. it will be under the security tab and you have to enable it, and it's usually enabled by default. So the other question is how much is a TPM chip? If I got a paper? So a TPM chip is not that expensive. I got good news for you. A TPM chip for an Asus motherboard runs just under 40 bucks.
Marcus Heart (14:21)
Oh, that's not bad.
John C. Morley: (14:23)
Not bad. However, if you want a TPM for your MSI, it's going to be about 65 bucks. Now, if you want to get the TPM for your HP trusted platform, how much do you think that one's going to cost you?
Marcus Heart: (14:39)
I'm going to take a wild guess that the price goes up for HP least spell
John C. Morley: (14:41)
It does how much as it goes apart 115 bucks.
Marcus Heart: (14:49)
That's very interesting, John, you know that these, the different brands, you know, just different from each other.
John C. Morley: (14:58)
Yeah. So when people say to John, how much is the update to windows 11, going to cost? I'm telling him, you know, don't do it. Because if you don't have the TPM, first of all, you have to understand that the TPM is going to a predicate. And it'll tell you right in your window setup, you know, whether on the upgrade screen, whether you can do this, or whether you can't do this, it's pretty simple. So if you can go and do th, the check compatibility, you know very easily, but again people say to me, John, how much is it? How much is it to buy a window? because let's say you don't have it buy a windows 11 product upgrade key because that's really what you're buying. You're buying an 11 product upgrade key because they are locked. You know, the system. So the good news is an 11 pro, not an OEM version, but an 11 pro retail key. It's going to set you back just under 70 bucks.
Marcus Heart: (16:05)
Thank you
John C. Morley: (16:05)
I also want to caution you. There are a lot of people out there that are selling keys. I'm not going to mention the names of the companies because I don't want to have people go there and they go to these websites and whether it's windows 11, windows 10 or it's server, if server costs over a thousand dollars and you could buy it for $49 Marcus, something's wrong.
Marcus Heart: (16:25)
Yeah, that doesn't sound too cool.
John C. Morley: (16:27)
Or even $89 to buy a six. Something is freaking. So people say, well, gee, I didn't know. They tell you right on the Microsoft site. If you're paying less than 50% for our software, it's probably not a legitimate key.
Marcus Heart: (16:43)
No, not at all.
John C. Morley: (16:45)
And when you're dealing with these companies, Marcus and you know, I remember a client of mine and they said, oh, I bought this gift and we don't get involved this well of the, I just put the key in and paste it. And I said I'll guarantee you that key's not going to work. No, no. My friend did paste the key in and said the key was already used, contact our service department. And after three or four times they, I said, we don't get involved with this. This is not a license. No, no, no. I bought it from no, no it's not a Microsoft license key. You bought it from some Schmo on the block that was selling it off a truck. No, no, I didn't go on anybody on a truck. It's an expression. It fell off the truck and they're probably just covering a few pennies just to pay some people, some coffee
Marcus Heart: (17:25)
yeah.
John C. Morley: (17:28)
But it's interesting. So we'll keep an eye on that, but you know, more has been happening Marcus with the supply chain. You know, we've talked about this. We have challenges in our own IT and tech business, whether it's for wall street or it's for clients we're able to get PC components pretty quickly. We're having issues, getting server components though cases are taking us about an extra week to get from a normal day and that's a problem. We're still able to turn them around fairly quickly, but I can tell you this, there's not a lot of selection. When we used to have hundreds of cases to choose from We don't have that selection because some of those are still stuck on a slow boat from China or they're out in the water somewhere.
Marcus Heart: (18:15)
Got that. Right?
John C. Morley: (18:16)
so something else that's causing a big problem and people don't realize the impact of COVID it's not the health impact anymore. It's not just the health impact. It's how it's affecting our economy, our world, right? And so one place that's affecting us is on November 1st I have some sad news. They are saying that no GM plants will be closed due to chip shortages. I say it's sad news because they're saying for the first time, in eight months, the global shortage of computer chips, won't force general motors to close any North American factories. Okay. So they're not going to close, but now they're going to just take more time to build the car. And I already see costs of things going up. We already know that lumber went up, right? If you have to have a home improvement done, the people that gave you quotes say, well, come back to us in about eight to 10 months, Lumber's gone up 25%. Even the glue Marcus to put on boards, you can't even get it like Elmer's carpenter glue, good luck.
Marcus Heart: (19:27)
Yeah. These swords are happening just about everywhere, you know, in every industry that you can think of. And we're going to see the car industry hit the hardest.
John C. Morley: (19:38)
Well, we know what happened last year with the car industry. I know I had just changed my lease this past December. And I wasn't even looking to do anything because my lease wasn't up to the end of the year, but they were so zealous to get my car. They made it so impossible for me not to do it coz I had not planned on getting this car was going to get something else. And they erased all my mileage and they made my car price $5 more than it was. And they gave me more miles. Now they gave me 2000, whatever it was because they didn’t have 2021. They had 2020, the factory is closed because they're always a year ahead. So will they start making 2022 now? And that's the question I think, are we going to start seeing them? I don't know
Marcus Heart: (20:25)
If we do see them they're going to be very expensive.
John C. Morley: (20:28)
John. I think car prices. I know my dad was telling me that a car that he has a luxury car is leasing, but that car right now, if he was to let's say buy it outright has gone up to $35,000.
Marcus Heart: (20:47)
Yeah. It's very, it's very true. Do you know? I experienced a similar thing, you know? Well, I overheard some similar talk, You know, where, BMW is begging people to bring in, you know, their used vehicles because they have no vehicles on a lot.
John C. Morley: (21:00)
Did you know Marcus that the average price of a new vehicle hit a peak last month, $42,802 before luxury sales tax? Breaking our old record, which isn't too far behind, but it's still a little behind 41,528. now you might say to me, John, well, that's not a big difference. Okay. So now you're looking at a car that's $42,802. Let's just round that. And then you take the 41,528. You're talking about a difference of 1274. And the average is nearly up Marcus 19% from a year ago when it broke 36,000 for the first time.
Marcus Heart: (21:59)
Geez.
John C. Morley: (22:00)
So that means if we look at the prices of cars today. Okay. Today from where they were before at 36,000. Okay. We're talking about an increase to markets by $6,802. We're talking about a new vehicle. We're not even talking luxury prices.
John C. Morley: (22:27)
So but one thing I will tell you is that the Tennessee plant for Nissan is planning to close for two weeks very soon because of the chip shortage. So what's going to happen then with Ford, they're going to have to put the prices into the, into the vehicles. Now, remember GM is not making cars anymore. And this is why I think they're not closing because they're not making cars. I don't know why they stopped. I think it was becoming too costly for them to make cars. So a lot of people are buying trucks, but trucks are not being sold as much as cars are being sold. I think that's the real reason why they're not closing.
Marcus Heart: (23:09)
That's like you hinting at something that is becoming very obvious. You know, it's going to become more and more obvious. And John, that shows real good insight on your park there. And you know, you are right people, aren't buying trucks like that, you know, and we're moving towards people doing that.
John C. Morley: (23:30)
We're all, we're also moving toward electric vehicles. I think electric vehicles are probably three to five years. I think they're going to become a lot more affordable. I think the government might subsidize them because I think they're going to want to get everybody on these plans. You know how a lot of these power companies we have at home and I never change, you know, you have like a power company, then you have your supplier, which is like nonsense. Well, we had this supplier for quite a few years. IDT and they just sent me a letter telling me your contract with us has expired. I never even set up a contract with them. Then I got a letter from my power company saying, just want to let you know that you’re from the power company said, we're your energy distributor, but your supplier has canceled their contract. Thus your service is reverting to us. I said, what the heck does that mean? Oh, nothing. It just goes up a little bit because now we're supplying and distributing. Like I don't understand. No, it's a rare thing. Am I missing something here?
John C. Morley: (24:35)
So there's been a frustration with a lot of people that I talk to. Windows 10 has started to recycle and keep booting over and over and over and over and over again. So I want to share a few little tips that you can do to stop your computer from rebooting over and over and over again because maybe a setting gut change. So there are three things I want to share with you. So one that you can do and it, and it's really easy. You can hold the windows key down and the S key down. And when you do that, you're going to then go ahead and type in an advanced so advanced system. And when you do that, you will see advanced system settings. Okay. when you go in there, you're going to have something that says startup and recovery on the advanced tab, click on the settings button.
John C. Morley: (25:30)
There there's lots of settings button. So again, you want to click on the one under the startup and recovery. So when you go in system properties, click on advance, and then it's the third set. I don't know why they made them all called settings. I think they should have named one like performance settings, user profile settings. I just thought that was terrible. They called them all settings. Like that was yours is really poor design because I always say, well click on the settings button, which one? Oh, that's right. so there is an option there that says automatically restart. You can uncheck that. Now. Usually what happens is the system will restart when there's an error. So this may not solve the problem that is causing your system reboot. But this is a good, quick way. If you don't know how to solve that underlying problem to at least get the computer to not annoy you so much, you can uncheck the automatic start and say, okay.
John C. Morley: (26:19)
The other thing that you can do is you can go into windows S again, and you can go to your advanced area one more time. And what you can do is you can go to your, you can go to your hardware and you can go to your device manager. Okay. and you can see your processor, but the easiest thing to do is just go to windows key S and type in power. Okay. So we type in power like your power sleep and settings that's exactly. Or edit the power plan. Either one of those is fine. So once that pulls up on the screen you're going to see where it says change advance power settings. Just go ahead and click on that. Once you click on that, you're going to see a dialogue box open up, and it's going to say what mode you're in, and then make sure it's selected to what you're on.
John C. Morley: (27:09)
And then you're going to go down to where it says it's about midway down. It says processor, power management. Okay. There's something under there. There are three things under there. The first thing says minimum processor state. Click on that little plus sign, you'll see it says is battery and plugged. And depending on if you're a laptop or computer and you want to make sure that's on that, that is at least 5% or it could be lower, but it should be 5%. If it's not, what can happen is it could be causing your computer to over cycle by the processor. So that's another thing. Another thing that really could solve the problem is sometimes people are using outdated graphics drivers. They get these great graphics cards, but they just take them out of the box, but they don't bother to update them. Right. So update your graphics driver.
John C. Morley: (27:53)
And if you can't find an updated graphics driver, uninstall your graphics driver, shut your computer down, reboot your computer and allow windows to find reset. A lot of times its just corruption or something. That'll reset it. So these are just some things you can do to make using your computer, you know, a little bit more friendly because sometimes that reboot and it shouldn't be rebooted automatically, but I can tell you that the reason it's rebooting is probably an underlying issue, like your graphics card or something else, or there's a runaway process. And so at least this will buy you a little bit of time. So it doesn't keep interrupting you every time you're trying to save a document or things like that. But again, I do caution you that when you go to your windows update screen, which everyone has access to, it's going to say right now there is an optional quality update. It's a 20,21,10 QME update preview for windows 10, 21H1 for the H64 base systems, KB5006738. You want to download, install that if you don't download install, that you might find that you're not able to receive an email in outlook because this has some reciprocities to how the mail servers are connecting.
John C. Morley: (29:18)
So some useful information that, that we've got we have taken a little bit of a hiatus. If you guys have known from our guess we're going to be getting back on track. I'm hoping before the holidays, we have quite a few guests lined up by just, to be honest, haven't had the chance to read all these books. I think I have over 12 books now to read. And the latest one that I'm reading now is called “how to kill remotely”. I'm about halfway through. It's a very good book, but it's not an easy book to read because it's very emotional. It talks about the fact that you know, you go to your remote location, either on the computer or at your remote pilot place and you go kill and then you go home and have coffee or dinner with your family and you just act as nothing happened. You could say you kill people, but you can't say anything else. And what they're discovering and we'll learn later when, when I share the book is that it's having psychological impacts on people's lives.
Marcus Heart (30:16)
Wow.
John C. Morley (30:17)
You wouldn't think that you know, pushing a button and seeing a missile or doing something like using a drone to have a payload on it to deploy a bomb or nuclear warhead could be something that would bother you when you're not even located anywhere near it. What's happening is people are starting to feel the connection. Even if it's pretty close to them, they can see the destruction on camera. They can go back and verify it. And when they go back and verify it, they're, they're, they're even bringing people in like psychological counselors help them, but these psychological counselors have to get them to feel good, get this about killing.
Marcus Heart: (31:03)
Wow.
John C. Morley: (31:05)
I wouldn't want that job. You know,
Marcus Heart: (31:07)
I couldn't imagine,
John C. Morley: (31:09)
you know so we're going to be talking to a retired military or Colonel who sent us a book where I'm very grateful for. But like I said, I have a little more reading to do and I wanted to digest it. It's not a book. You can just read over coffee or dinner. You've gotta be in the right frame of mind. And you've also gotta understand the purpose and the context because he goes through weapons from the very beginning things like rocks. Yeah. And that was fine. But when we started getting up to guns and then we got up to all these controls and how people feel mentally, I'm like, I feel like I'm there, it's a very intense book. It's not meant for people that it's an over 18 book. Not because there's any nudity or anything like that, but it deals with a very sensitive topic and the fact that they have to do a job and that's the Army's job or the Navy's job is to kill
Marcus Heart: (32:04)
It sounds like a very, very new type of PTSD. That's, you know just on the scene here and, you know, thank you so much, John, for that recommendation. I'm going to check it out himself.
John C. Morley: (32:14)
Yeah. Well, when he comes on and I think you're going to enjoy the thing, but the post-traumatic stress disorder, for those of you guys that don't know PTSD and I quote, it's a disorder in which a person has difficulty recovering after experience or witnessing a terrifying event. So a PTSD could happen to people in everyday life. Let's say they witnessed a murder. Hopefully, they didn't, or they saw somebody being robbed or being stabbed or what have you, or even watching something that was reenacted on the news could leave PTSD. Yeah. So I think we have to be cognizant of, you know, what we're doing and my solution to it is killing the answer or is more deflecting the answer so that, you know, when you play baseball or you play football or soccer or lacrosse or rugby, we don't kill the other player, but we just try to keep them away from our goal.
John C. Morley: (33:11)
Right? Maybe the issue that we should be working more on is how to keep them away from us and how to keep them disabled. I just don't like the idea of killing them. I don't feel like that's necessary. I feel that you know, if we can keep them at bay and we can keep them away from us, that's probably all we need to do. I just don't think we need to kill them. I get that. We might need to destroy their bases and things like that. But as long as nobody's in there saying because we could cripple them by destroying a military operation, they're destroying heads or things like that, but let's not kill them. And some of these people, they got families. And I think that's the big challenge when they come home when they just killed such and such.
John C. Morley: (33:54)
And they realize that he had a little boy or his mother died earlier and you realize that was your job, but now you have more than PTSD. You have like this real intention. And some people just want to get out, but the people they bring in to coach them, don't talk about the killing as something they shouldn't do they talk about it as something that's part of the job. Usually, that's not something that a psychologist talks about. They talk about it as it's part of your job and you just do it every day. Like you breathe. That's not for me. Another interesting point in the news, we've been following that news story, right? With the weapon that destroyed the cinematographer.
Marcus Heart: (34:44)
Yeah.
John C. Morley: (34:47)
How does that even happen?
Marcus Heart: (34:49)
you know, how do you not follow the correct safety protocols? You know, it is really terrible and really unfortunate, you know that you got clear safety protocols, follow it
John C. Morley: (35:01)
Baldwin didn't know the weapon contained a live round. Okay. So, here's my point. If he didn't know, then shouldn't the prop people have known. Shouldn't the armorist have known? I mean, I don't think a bullet should have even been brought on a set. Like there was no need for a bullet.
Marcus Heart: (35:26)
You don't need live rounds.
John C. Morley: (35:27)
What I have to believe is either that gun was taken offset by somebody and used and when it was brought back on, they never checked it. If you noticed a while back Marcus, they got rid of a lot of people. I think the reason these people quit wasn't that it was low budget. I think they quit because they got their hand in a cookie jar and they wanted to go away because they didn't want any fingers pointing at them. But what they don't realize is that this investigation's going to go on and all these people are going to be brought back in. So by them leaving, they made themselves more of how can I
Marcus Heart (36:07)
very suspect.
John C. Morley : (36:08)
And then this other lady goes and testifies that's the armorist, but her testimonial just basically seems to get us to ask more questions.
Marcus Heart: (36:24)
Yeah.
John C. Morley: (36:24)
There's going to be a new standard for using weapons on a set.
Marcus Heart: (36:29)
Is. You know, because you know, it's very dangerous, you know,
John C. Morley: (36:33)
It’s dangerous. And I know when I go, I've gone several times on ski shooting and they're always very big about safety. They have like a window. If you ever know, you put the gun in the window and you're not allowed to take the gun out of the window unless the gun is not loaded and the cork is open. And then when you take the gun out, you're not even supposed to put the gun on the floor, you're supposed to put it on your toe. So I think safety's all around us, but I think some people just don't want to be cognizant about it. Marcus. And this film, you know, those people died. And also the fact that this is going to go on and on, it's going to become a movie. It's going to become a book. And although I think it's important that we let people know, I don't think it should go through all those steps. I think the people have a right to get their settlement and to, and to make this well-known so that it never happens again. But I just think having it being a movie and having it be a book, I think that's showing disrespect to the family.
Marcus Heart: (37:47)
It is total disrespect. And you know, this definitely could, you know, just turn into something that can be lingering on and lingering it back of, you know, me, many of those family members. And just bringing back, those recurring memories of what happened. So like you said, John is very respectful. And again, with the safety issue, I just came to wrap my head around it. You know when this thing, when it's routine from movie to movie, film to film, you know, or how, what you should do with, with these type of weapons,
John C. Morley: (38:26)
They have a rule, which is very interesting. You know, what it says, blanks can kill. So if you realize that the gun is always loaded, this is what a person taught me a long time ago at the skate range. He said, John. He says, just realize that gun is always loaded. Just realize the gun is always loaded. Even if it's not treated, if it's always loaded, never point anybody, even if it's not loaded.
Marcus Heart: (38:51)
And the fact that like the gun misfired, like, you know, a couple of times before the incident, even, you know, occurred, you know that,
John C. Morley: (38:59)
So let's talk about some of the 10 rules. Some of the, a few, I just said basic rules of gun safety. Yeah. Keep your firearm muzzle point at the head of the gun in a safe direction. Never toward anybody. Be sure of your target. That's both in front of you and know what's beyond it so that if you can't see what's on the other side of it, you make sure before you shoot, you keep your finger off the trigger.
Marcus Heart: (39:22)
All it times
John C. Morley: (39:24)
You check the barrel for obstructions. you keep the action open and you only point the muzzle at something when you intend to intentionally shoot,
Marcus Heart: (39:39)
Those are the basics.
John C. Morley: (39:42)
And then, of course, you've got to unload your firearm before jumping, running, or climbing, or forget that even leaving the point, whether you're shooting for fun or you're, whatever you're doing, you want to unload the firearm before you're doing anything outside. We called it the box. Store your firearms safely. They should never be close to children or careless adults. They should be locked up. And of course, never use drugs or alcohol and any horseplay when you're around any type of firearms. so I think, I don't want to say firearms are fun, and I don't want to say that, but I'll say that they're a tool that it's fun to practice your skill. I don't want to say the gun is fun, but I want to say using the tool to aim at a target is something that people have fun doing.
John C. Morley: (40:38)
Yes. Because if I said shooting a gun is fun. I don't know if I can agree with that. But if you said to me, you know, shooting a gun at a target, at a range, trying to get a bird or something, that's fun. So I think people just have to understand Marcus that there are consequences. There are consequences with everything and there there are consequences. And some people believe Marcus that they're above the law. I've run into this several times, whether they have a dollar or they have a billion dollars, people that have more than a few dollars, think they could do whatever they want Marcus. They think they can go above the law. They think they can create a facade so that, you know, they've got all this money and they can use lawyers and they can threaten people. But is that the right way? When you do stuff like that, you not only ruin your reputation, places like the police station and the authorities, they start to get to know the people that operate like that. And when they do, they start to realize a pattern.
John C. Morley: (41:53)
Do you know? And I can't impress this enough that the impression you make, whether it's with a gun or whether it's anything you're doing, you have to realize that you need to be just and fair. Even if it's not the way you want it to be, you've gotta act justly because sooner or later it's going to cause you consequences. And in this case, we learned, it took away somebody's life. That's something we can never redo. No, let's do a redo. Let’s hit the control Z. Now we can that on, on we can't un-shoot somebody.
Marcus Heart: (42:39)
No, we don't do that in life.
John C. Morley: (42:39)
No, I wish there was a control Z button to just bring them back. Like they do in the movies. You can't do that here or in a film. We'll just control ZC. I didn't mean to clip that control Z.
John C. Morley: (42:47)
We'll bring it right back. Can't do that. Well, it has been a great show. We are getting into our month in November and pretty soon we'll be into Thanksgiving. So we'll have some interesting things. And as we get closer to Thanksgiving, we'll have some recipes that we're going to share with you on how to make your Turkey delicious. The closer we get to Thanksgiving. We'll share that out but listen, ladies and gentlemen, if you have an idea for a show, I invite you to go to www.jmor.com click on the reach out button. And then there's a new option there “apply to become a guest”, click on the, apply to become a guest button, fill out all the information we ask you. You'll go through our pre-vetting stage. And our production team will decide whether we'd like to move you to the next phase.
John C. Morley: (43:32)
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John C. Morley: (44:33)
As I get to the very end, you can just get chills in your spine of excitement, knowing that this is the real deal. This is the real I 13 pro max. Well, we are at the end of our hour Marcus, it has been another great show everyone. I hope that you guys have a great rest of your mouth and course, a great week. And we will be back ladies and gentlemen, of course, you know that we will be back next Friday, November 12th, but remember, what time is it tomorrow you can catch our audio program. What time is that tomorrow
Marcus Heart: (45:06 )
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John C. Morley: (45:17)
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